think of your balance on the site as random numbers. you put some money it shows a value. you use free miner it shows random value. when you try to put it to your bitcoin wallet other than on hashie it goes right back to hashie. you will never get a payout. other than the formula being russian roulet in that 1-5 random people get payed or if hashie decides to stop the endless loop let like 5 people cashout and continue his scam. I really don't know how the fuck to make it any clearer than when you type your bitcoin address in finances it is replaced with one from hashie. so the money never leaves the hashie website no matter how much you want to believe the magic of lies.