Quote from: RockMinerOops on January 14, 2015, 02:13:28 AM

Quote from: WorldWideBTC on January 14, 2015, 02:01:40 AM

Quote from: RockMinerOops on January 14, 2015, 01:58:54 AM

Guess you didn't confirm receipt either...oh wait, you did.

http://gyazo.com/83c8d7ebc09707d7c62f27d30ce84608

And just as a heads up....although Theymos won't give out users IP's to random requests, he will for a police or court order, his own words. He can expect that request shortly.

Yeah, I want to see you link an IP to 1 out of 4 or more people who share a living area. I want to see that happen. Frankly, the mailman could have sent you that PM.

I like how you think you know the law so well....truth is, you make some valid points, but not all.

When the IP matches, they may not get you....but they will get the owner of that IP, so maybe your grandmother will get arrested.

You are scum...feel good about yourself?

Except you're wrong. See, there wasn't a cyber crime committed from this IP. You can't prove otherwise.

If my grandmother (All of whom are deceased, but I digress) was the account holder of this IP, it wouldn't matter. What would she be charged with? Lmao.

You legal beagles. You think you got it all sorted, then someone shits on your parade. There is no IP problem here. There is a burden of proof problem. Prove that you NEVER RECEIVED BITCOINS from whomever you sent funds to. You cannot do that. Welcome to crypto.

Let me tell you a little story. Once upon a time there was this guy. He scammed users out of about ~27 BTC. Some of those coins were recovered, but overall, he got away with a decent chunk of change. They had his identity. They had his IP. They had his PHYSICAL LOCATION.

HIS PHYSICAL LOCATION.

Do you know what happened? Wailing. Gnashing of teeth. Sadness. Fury. Nothing.

Nothing but a lot of "heavyweight" BTC businessmen balling their fists and shaking them at the computer screen. Nothing but words, threats, and a lot of annoying (and confusing) phone calls to various legal entities.

Meanwhile the guy moved across the country and went about his business.

If something unfortunate happened to you -that sucks. Get over it. You send funds to anonymous people on the internet for "bitcoins" (which aren't even a fucking thing), you take risks. Welcome to ANONYMOUS CRYPTO CURRENCY.

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You don't need to get anyone where the OP lives involved. All he needs to do is contact the local police who would start an investigation into the bank account you told him to deposit funds into. Once that happens your identity will quickly be determined and by your own posts on here you are blatantly admitting to have no intention of giving the OP the bitcoin you sold him. This should be an open and shut case

No. Just no.

No one is going to start an investigation into a bank account receiving funds, because nothing illegitimate happened during the fund transfer.

No one is admitting ANYTHING.

We're all talking hypothetically here, folks.

One thing is certain - the burden of proof isn't on ME (or whomever) to show that they DID send bitcoins. The burden of proof is on the VICTIM to prove that they never received goods. As Bitcoins are untraceable to an IP, and a digital good that has no static owner....

....You get the point.

As far as I'm concerned, you got your bitcoins. Prove that you didn't.