Genjix and phantomcircuit are not scammers. If this was an inside job, these two people were not in on it.
just because they are reputable forum members or that you know them personally, dosn't mean that they can't be scammers.
and either they lied and scammed Tihan, because they said that they are security experts(which is clearly not the case)
and/or they scammed us, because they stole from us.
if you don't want to give them the scammer tag, could you please give them a incompetent-and-lieing-idiot tag?