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Re: A good and exhaustive summary of differences between best anonymous coins ?
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Pline
on 12/02/2015, 00:47:01 UTC
Hello guys, I thought it would be really nice if someone could do it here. I'm very interested in some coins I found recently (ShadowCash, Monero) that seems like to be really good competitor to Darkcoin with great concepts. They have good dev' with many annoncement and news incoming after a lot of work that has been very well made, at least that is what my researches told me.

Anyone could explain me the differences ?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745352.0 (SDC)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0 (XMR)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.0 (DRK)


Thanks for your future help guys !

Cheers  Wink

There has been a little bit of a debate about this, which occasionally turns into a troll/flame/FUD fest.  People are very defensive about their coins.  Personally I feel that SDC has the most promise from things I have seen. However I think we should support all projects that are attempting to increase privacy and anonymity in crypto.  

Anyways Isidor Zeuner is said to be coming out with a review on ShadowCash in the near future, and I heard he may also be comparing ShadowCash to Monero, DRK, cryptonote, and other anon coins to highlight the similarities and differences.  There has been some confusion on this issue.  I think that if ShadowCash passes peer review without any critical flaw then it is probably the best anon coin.  But I'm sure others who are diehard fans of other anon coins will disagree.

Also I should mention that the Shadow Project has other valuable things such as ShadowChat encrypted messaging within the official wallet.  Soon they say they will add voice, video, and file support.  They are also working on a decentralized marketplace within the official wallet, similar to open bazaar.  They also have had many other accomplishments with their wallet and mobile wallets.


So, encrypted messaging and basically the opinion of some broke plebian discord result in the amount of $282,482.

ring signatures and basically some crazed bible thumpers brought together $1,415,675.

while fancy mixing, with basically the entire social capital that was originally interested in an anonymous bitcoin originally bring in $16,963,366

and you're telling me that the price rising to greater than 17 million dollar market cap hinges on the opinion of one broke absolutely unrelated to cryptocurrency motherfucker?

Please.

If that worked I'd be a fucking millionaire right now.    

Hello there.  I never said any such thing about price resulting from one broke/bloke.  Rather the price is more a function of the press and media hype that a coin gets.  Unfortunately for ShadowCash it has not gotten the attention it yet deserves, as it has been eclipsed by other anon coins such as DRK, which got a first mover advantage.  People also got burned out on a lot of anon coin scams, so they are very skeptical of any new coin and tired to look into them all.

Also Isidor Zeuner is not some bloke unrelated to cryptocurrency.  He is a German cryptographer, and one of the few active members on the Bitcoin developers mailing list.  Often his posts are involved with anonymity and privacy.  You can read some of Isidor Zeuner's stuff on the bitcoin dev mailing list here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/

Hey I happen to totally be his cousin that knows just as much as he does.

I can tell you theres a lot of size, which will lead to overloaded p2p networks as well as hard drives unless pruning is a possibility (still inconsequential because of the massive size of the transactions overloading peoples internet connections - nodes will be permanently centralized), and also theres the lack of security against quantum computing which is the same damn reason cryptonote is seemingly shitting the bed. So, not only will there be the possibility to double spend, the entire transaction history will have a matching quantum algorithm.

Don't paint a bag of shit blue and tell me theres chocolates inside critter.

Lol, sounds credible.  One interesting thing to consider is that recently Evan Duffield the lead DRK developer said that DRK's scheme also causes blockchain bloat, but it isn't as bad because only about 1 in 100 transactions use darksend, and its only used when needed (39 min mark): http://youtu.be/5zPYWEPh_Us?t=39m28s

The same could actually be said for ShadowCash.  Because Shadow has two units of account, SDC, and also Shadow (SDT).  When sending SDC to SDC there is no bloat at all and it works just like Bitcoin and is transparent.  Only when using the Shadow send feature would it create bloat as far as I understand, and Shadow send is only used when needed for privacy.

I have heard that the issue of a quantum attack would affect all cryptos in breaking the ECDSA signatures.  But this could be protected against by never reusing addresses from what I understand.  Also new signing algorithms in the future could be applied to resist such quantum attacks.  I have heard Vitalik Buterin suggest updating to Lamport signatures to help guard against certain attacks, not sure if this would help against quantum attacks, but I can remember reading about some other schemes that would.  Here is an interesting read on the topic: http://www.bitcoinnotbombs.com/bitcoin-vs-the-nsas-quantum-computer/