Its amazing how anywhere on the internet, when some one criticizes the actions of Israel, dozens of sock puppets show up to start slandering and attacking the characters of anyone who doesn't fall in line. I guess that is the only alternative when you can't win a debate via facts.
Yes,
amazing...
Here's a few facts about this thread:
People can decide for themselves if this is a thread about hating Jews or a thread about criticizing Israel. Can you point me to the "criticism of Israel" in this thread?
To think that you can simply separate the the hostile reaction to Zvika Klein, an
orthodox Jew and
Israeli journalist as only being motivated by antisemitism is simplistic and a cheap attempt at playing the race card it only looks at the symptom and not the cause. As long as Jewish people allow their identity to be conflated with the Zionist state you will have this problem in the same way Muslims who allow ISIS to hide behind the Muslim religion to commit acts of terror are going to have the same problem.
Everyone can see that Tusk did not respond to the clear evidence I gave that this thread is about hating Jews rather than criticizing Israel.
It's also clear that Tusk is suggesting that the reaction to the man in the video is due to the people knowing specifically who he was, rather than that he was dressed as a Jew. I believe the people in the video only knew the man looked Jewish. I also believe Tusk believes the people in the video only knew the man looked Jewish. Each reader will need to determine for themselves the reason Tusk is suggesting otherwise.
Imagine a similar video of someone dressed as a Muslim in a western country walking and being treated in such a bigoted and aggressive. Do you think Tusk or TECSHARE would make excuses for it? Would they say that it's a symptom of the fact that there are groups like ISIS beheading people/burning people alive? Or would they say it's wrong to blame a random Muslim for the action of groups like ISIS and instead blame the aggressive bigots on the street? If they would react differently in that situation, why? Again, readers have to answer these questions for themselves and determine the motivations.
Before clicking on this link, I suggest people ask themselves the following question: What will this story be about? What will be the context? Will it be a reaction to something? If so, what kind of thing?
If you allow the Zionist butcher Benjamin Netanyahu to declared Israel the home of every Jew", while ignoring the rights of Palestinians to self determination is complete hypocrisy. Your outrage should be at targeted at the Zionist who uses your Jewish identity to commit crimes in your name.
Why does Tusk refer to Netanyahu as the "Zionist butcher"? Is it because he has authorized attacks on Palestinians? If so, what were the objectives of such attacks? Were they primarily to "butcher" Palestinians? Or were they in response to something?
Personally, I am willing to listen to the arguments of people who criticize Israel, but only if I have heard them previously criticize groups who have killed far more people -- far more Muslims -- than Israel -- by far. Also, they have to demonstrate that they have some basic background knowledge of the situation. They have to know about who Hamas is and what they openly believe -- what kind of a "deal" Hamas would accept. They have to know about the deals that Israel has offered and made with her enemies over the years. They have to have some realistic alternative for what Israel could do now to live in peace with her neighbors. It's also helpful if they are familiar with the Ottoman empire, the Balfour declaration, British control of the terroritories after WW I, the UN 1947 partition plan, then 1948 conflict, the 1967 conflict, the six day war, the trouble with the PLO include the Munich massacre, airline hijackings, the Achille Lauro, and so on.
Now when you read quotes from this thread like...
saddampbuh: "shouldn't have killed jesus"
saddampbuh: "the jews collectively as a people have a lot to answer for is a truth almost universally understood outside american christian zionist circles"
saddampbuh: "jewish culpability in the crucifixion and collective guilt were mainstream christianity's official line until 50 years ago when everyone felt bad because of the holohoax"
budgie: "what about a video of 10 hours walking in israel as someone that looks like an arab?"
TECSHARE: "The only problem with this scenario is there would be about 10 minutes of walking then 9 hours and 50 minutes of him bleeding out."
Tusk: "a bit rich to claim that his movement is restricted when Israel has systematically annexed Palestine forcing its people either into exile or
apartheid ghetto concentration camps while building illegal settlements on their land."
TECSHARE: "There isn't a rising "Jew hatred" happening all over the world"
Tusk: "Thats is equivalent to denying the holocaust, nice try."
Tusk: "your zionist fascist state is no different from the attempts by the nazis to create Lebensraum"
...do you get the impression these people know about any of these things?
The good thing I'll say about saddampbuh is that at least he seems to know he would've sided with the Nazis 80 years ago. The others have fallen for the strange idea that the Israelis are the "real Nazis" so you're actually fighting the Nazis by demonizing Jews.
If this topic is so important to so many people, then why haven't they read anything about it?
If the people on this thread were criticizing Israel, it would be a discussion about better policies Israel could have to live in peace. The reason it's not that discussion is because they are not interested in such an outcome. All they want is one thing. The same thing Hamas wants. The same thing the PLO wanted. The same thing the Nazis wanted. Dead Jews. As many as possible.