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Re: Scientific proof that God exists?
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bl4kjaguar
on 02/03/2015, 17:08:27 UTC
I am happy to agree with you that God exists within. I think that is where the "proof" of God will come from: within you! 

The chess match recorded by Eisenbeiss actually happened, so it is true;
the questions were answered correctly, so that part is also true.
Finally, rebirth is a key message of spirituality and it is even in the Bible,
So that part of Eisenbeiss is also true.
What part is actually being questioned?
It seems to me that the source is giving us the truth every time.
Thus the source is not of importance; having an open mind for truth is what is important!

Please use own discernment; I have already referenced for you the "First Christians" audio so that you may follow up on the references/resources therein. I have also posted on the topic of rebirth in the Bible in this thread; I discern that you do not really understand where the Bible came from, nor are you even interested. You have no right to pound on my truth (you have no answer to the problem of the criterion, since you can't explain this presumed knowledge/criteria, you have a fatal flaw in your argument); judge not lest it be in ignorance!

The question isn't about whether mediums and the like can exist or not. The questions have to do with their authenticity and their integrity, as well as questions of the authenticity and integrity of the "spirits" that move the mediums. The larger question has to do with what God wants us to do regarding mediums and "spiritists," and the spirits that they contact.

The Bible speaks to these questions several times in various places. God tells us in the Bible to not seek out mediums, spiritists, or the spirits. Why? Because it is God to Whom everyone is supposed to individually go, directly. We don't need a medium with God on the job.

In addition, as mentioned above, the authenticity and integrity of the spirits, as well as the mediums, is always in question. Why? Because nobody knows who the spirits are, or what is on their minds and hearts. And the mediums may well be liars, themselves, not having any spirit contact at all, but rather, deceiving the people for their own, selfish, purposes.

If somebody who is considered to be a medium doesn't say, "Seek God, not me or the spirits," then he is not of God. If a person who is of God seeks out a medium and hears him/her, that seeker is starting to turn away from God by doing so. It's in the Bible.

Smiley

Hypothetically, the Phoenix Journals could be inauthentic, but this possibility is eliminated upon reading them. Since you are basically saying the same thing about the Bible and also declaring your book to be literal, I think my rational faith will have more appeal than an ancient book; you are the only one still arguing against the material that I present Humbly and in TRUTH. In fact, Phoenix Journals have the best explanation of all Biblical material, but how would you know if you condemn without knowledge?

The scribe Dharma and messengers Hatonn/Aton (who travels with Christ 'irrefutably') and crew scribed the message for our time; it is about being responsible enough to learn the truth about man and God. Since the Journals are more mysterious, it is well worth your "time"; please be aware that all that I am is a point of view.
Here is a small part of what Phoenix Journals say about "other speakers".
Search Phoenix Journals for "other speakers" --in quotes--here:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/site_search.html

Dude, you could just meditate or read some of the poems of Tagore and come to the truth about God; if I choose to read Journals, who are you to say it is not authentic for me¿¿¿ You do not bother to read much of anything or even to cite an example where these writings are not authentic