Quote from: stevegreer on March 11, 2015, 01:57:11 PM

Quote from: LaudaM on March 11, 2015, 01:40:54 PM

Actually this is not just "some" evidence that is here. There were way too many coincidences that happened that day or the days prior to 9/11. Mathematically it is impossible. If you think about it, this 'terrorist fight' hasn't yielded any results so far, but with it, they have justification for spying on the population.

Very true. Actually, the Patriot Act as a whole was a huge hit (not in a good way) on our civil liberties and basic freedoms. Most people are just too oblivious to it as long as they get the constant "feel good" stream of crap from the media and are totally absorbed in the latest from the music and gaming industries to the point of not knowing or not caring what is actually going on in the world around them. Seems people these days are more interested in the latest app, Facebook post or Tweet to really care about important things.

I don't think people are oblivious to it. It's a very broad piece of legislation, therefore simple to understand. Additionally, it works both ways. Government can demand information from the people (almost at will) but so can the People, through the media. And the media has done it several times, gone to court to demand release of the information and WON!

There's a level of political apathy in the US that's unfortunate. People don't care enough about politics, don't think they can effect change (even though the People have the vote), or they're just too consumed in their own life - yes part of that is shitty cable TV (i.e., American Idol) but part of it is also making ends meet.

The social media apps do a great service to spreading current events to people that don't watch or read the news regularly (e.g., the SAE Fraternity racist chant video when viral on social media before the traditional media reported on it, the issue in Ferguson, the GOP's letter to Iran, etc.).

How do you propose we bring the value of the vote and politics and involvement back to the American people?