I am glad that both of you are peaceful about this and trying to work it out. More than I've seen out of a few on here. Hope you both get this resolved and nobody loses anything. GL.
I agree. I think I said this in the past, but I have to repeat this: I applaud those involved how civilized this is despite the amount of money and
merde (pardon my french) is involved.
Id like to offer my advice on this. Take it or not I cant judge how important this is for each of you. Pardon me if I address you with your current accounts names it is just simpler for me and should not be take as bias.
MinermanNC I know - as you PMed me - that you are an experienced user here. I will not reveal your other account as you asked, dont worry. Yes, you should have asked for a signed message. Yes, it is understandable that you did not do so. I also agree that the price is somewhat normal. One might argue that the avatar might increase the value, but the trade was up ~3 days which should have given TerraMaster time to raise flags left and right. On the other hand: If I learned anything from past trades -> a hurried trade is rarely good a sign. Some people are just impatient, but usually I would say selling an account that is >600 days old would be a more considered decision. The asking price fell from 1.3 to .75 in those 3 days.
TerraMaster I personally think you have reasonably estblished that you once owned the account. I dont know if theymos will accept it though. There also is another problem. Lets say theymos accepts your proof, it does not clear up who sold the account. As we have seen from the time line of the events the thread which lead to the trade was opened 3 days prior to you noticing the hack. I also think its odd that the password was not reset as a change of password requires an attacker to have the old password. There are several explanations for this, among them (no order)
#1 you staged the hack
#2 your machine was compromised without you noticing and durring that time the old password was obtained by the hacker via e.g. a keylogger. They speculated you would not change the password for a while as long as they are careful in order to avoid raising flags when selling the account.
The lawn mower analogy is a nice picture, but the important difference is that in our digital world we have no faces or can easily change them. How would a judge rule in such a world?
There has been a similar situation in the recent past. It involved a loan though.
Im not sure where I am going with this. Would this be a battle it would be a draw and the longer this is dragged out the higher are the chances that the civilized conversations stop and more time is invested to solve something that might very well be unsolvable.
Do I have a solution? No. I hope I never have to be in a situation like this.
Do I think theymos will be able to solve this? I dont know, this was his opinion on the last case that seems more similar the longer I think about it.
I think that marcotheminer should return the account now since it was probably hacked, but everyone should give yussuf89 negative feedback for being unable to stand behind his account's actions unless he pays 50-75% of the loan principle. (This is just my opinion -- I'm not going to try to enforce it.)
I asked for a signed message, but he didn't reply. At the time of first transaction, however I hadn't, but later when I asked, I got no reply. I gradually forgot about it, since what I was worried of was he running of with the money.
Quickseller too asked for a signed address:
Is 1.3 your best price you can offer?
1.1 Last,but last price
1.1 would be too high for me. I have sold hero accounts for as low of ~.7 as of recently, and I would obviously want to buy for a lower price then that. In my experience it takes a long time for hero accounts to sell because of their high price and their overall prices are falling because of additional supply.
Would you be able to prove ownership of the account via a signed message? Acc is not hacked.Last price is 1.1 and escrow service can check evrything that my acc have.People offer me .8 .9...but this is to low for my hero.
I didn't even get a reply to that PM.
He was acting pretty desperate and I subconsciously thought it was genuine. It was there fo a few days too and everything was just like a normal auction.
Well, I learned a few things at least.
Yeah, it is quite possible that the hacker is an experienced thief and did not change the password then so that no red flags were raised. All the red flags will be raised only after the unfortunate buyer gets it. Zero risk for him.
Or the other view is OP just sold it to me and the password was obviously changed only once.
I am not in a good financial position right now. If I had say a few BTC, I would have definitely given it to you. Atm, all I have is around 0.2
BTC.
I am willing to sell this to you for 0.6
BTC.