Serious question, does UtopianFuture not have anything to do with NEM now, and no contact with the dev team, even social? It doesn't make a lot of difference to NEM as a piece of tech, but I have read other senior NEMsters saying UP is completely gone, and I find that hard to believe. I think it is highly unlikely that UP just walked away and has never had contact with the inner team of NEM anymore. I just don't buy that, so when I saw some senior Nem people doing just that, I thought "Oh fuck, that dude is probably lying, why, what else does he lie about". Like when a guy swears blind that he doesn't masturbate ... you know chances are he's a liar now, and you question his honesty over a trivial thing. Don't get me wrong here, if you ask a guy if he wanks, he might lie because it's none of your business, but what about when a guy offers that info without being pushed coz he thinks it makes him look more virtuous ... that dude looks like a liar in my books.

Thing is with NEM, UP being still involved is the communities business, so it is ok to ask.

Come on, senior NEM people are still in contact with UP every day, and who believes UP would have just walked away and left his baby. He's pulling the strings still. To say otherwise is like saying you don't wank, it just doesn't sound truthful to other regular guys, so whoever says it looks like a liar (and a wanker!).