Re: CryptoBall.io ★☆ MAJOR PROMO in Promo Thread ☆★ Collective Intel for Crypto ★☆
I honestly cant see why anyone would deposit their own coin to play on this site.
1) some coin is taken from pot straight up (how can there be 0.66btc in pot when there are 72 predictions);
2) then they are only paying out about 51% - 55% of what's left;
3) they aren't paying games with 1 or 2 predictions nor are they refunding those ones. Wtf
Unless im wrong on above, once people's free predictions run out, the site will fizzle out.
1) some coin is taken from pot straight up (how can there be 0.66btc in pot when there are 72 predictions);
2) then they are only paying out about 51% - 55% of what's left;
3) they aren't paying games with 1 or 2 predictions nor are they refunding those ones. Wtf
Unless im wrong on above, once people's free predictions run out, the site will fizzle out.
Hello ALL,
Well wishes to you.
Sorry for being a little absent these last couple of days, the teams been busy working on more exciting updates for Crypto Ball. Looks like weve missed a good old bit of debate.
Firstly, its great to see people participating in some active conversation about Crypto Ball - so Thank You for taking the time to share your thoughts. Now, lets see if we can clear a few things up and make some propositions for improvement.
Q: some coin is taken from pot straight up If there are 72 predictions at a cost if 0.01btc, how can the pot be 0.66btc.
A: Bitcoinexp is right on this one. The standard price of a Prediction is 0.01 BTC, i.e if you buy just 1 Pred itll cost you 0.01 BTC, therefore thats whats added to the Pot. However, if you buy more than 1 Pred we apply a Standard Discount (youll see this at the Checkout and on your Confirmation Email), e.g if you buy 25 Preds we apply a 60% Standard Discount, so the total comes out as 0.10 BTC. In this instance each Pred is worth 0.10 / 25 = 0.004 BTC, therefore thats whats added to the Pot. This seems the logical way of adding BTC to the Pot - we only add what users actually pay.
Q: they aren't paying games with 1 or 2 predictions nor are they refunding those ones. Wtf Refunding only if you paid kinda makes sense. But they should also allocate another free prediction to affected players. A bit unfair to lose a prediction. If another player or 2 played that game - they would have to pay out.
A: We will always refund users if theyve paid for their Preds and the Predictor Total is less than 3 - that way those brave enough to make the first move dont loose out if too few people play. The reason we have this minimum limit is to encourage a variety of Predictors to play, but also to avoid situations where one user is guaranteed to win 1st, 2nd & 3rd, thus affording them the opportunity to flood Sessions which do have lots of Predictors with loads of BTC that they only won by default.
We initially thought it was fair to not redeem the Free Preds weve recently given out given they were absolutely free, i.e no purchase required - in the case of the Discount Codes were offering, we would redeem Preds back to the Code. HOWEVER, we want our Users to be HAPPY and to feel as though theyre being treated fairly, SO
IF YOUVE SPENT FREE PREDS ON SESSIONS WITH LESS THAN 3 PREDICTORS AND YOU WANT THEM BACK, LETS US KNOW HERE ON THIS THREAD AND WELL REFUND THEM TO YOU
Q: They state they pay out between 50% and 92% - but when I checked 6 or so they all were 51% to 55%
A: This has cropped up before and weve already increased the pay out, but again OUR USER EXPERIENCE IS OF THE UPMOST IMPORTANCE TO US - WE SINCERELY VALUE YOUR FEEDBACK AND WILL DEVELOP CRYPTO BALL BY IT. We never intended to cheat our users out of winnings by setting the Pot share as we have, we only ever wanted to encourage more users to Predict by offering a significant incentive on larger Pots. But it seems loud and clear that we need to revise our approach. Before we go on, it may be encouraging to note that a large proportion of the Pots in March have been filled with Free Preds on top of PreLoads - all of which is BTC Crypto Ball has put up, so in many cases people have been winning 51% to 55% of a Pot that cost them nothing to win.
Anyway, onto the really important bit
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE POT DOES THE COMMUNITY WANT???
DO YOU WANT SOMETHING LIKE WHAT Bitcoinexp SUGGESTED - 75% to 95%? i.e the Pot starts at 75% but increases to 95% the bigger it gets (how much would have to be in the Pot for it to get to 95%?)
OR WOULD YOU PREFER A FIXED PERCENTAGE LIKE 85%, IRRESPECTIVE OF HOW MUCH IS IN THE POT?
LET US KNOW AND WELL DO SOME NUMBER CRUNCHING, THEN GET BACK TO YOU ALL WITH A PROPOSITION.
Hopefully you can see how serious we are about listening to our users and how willing we are to take on your feedback. We have every confidence in the potential of Crypto Ball, but we know that its by listening that well realise that potential.
As Bitcoinexp noted, were not perfect and were only new - to be honest well never be perfect, but what we can be is humble. We can be responsive. We can learn. And thats what were doing now
Warmest Wishes
