^^selling HashLast and KNC stuff. 16nm is coming? 
I think he prefers to buy the btc with the money he makes from selling the neptune
the 16nm will probably be ready somewhere near Q4 2015 - Q1 2016.. And that is how KNC (and other big mining manufacturers) are destoying the Bitcoin Eco system.
They have earned your trust in the old days and now they are revealing them self as the greedy criminals they are.
Wish I punched Sam Cole in the kisser at the Bitcoin 2014 conference in Amsterdam, too bad I did not
Blane the lawyers here . they give the people who are to stupid to haldle a miner the possibility toe sue KNC...
the result will be they stop selling to end users! is that simple!
so in the end blame it on the short term bastearts.
Now oly chineese componys will sell to you they can not be sued , by stupid people so they can take the risk.
not related.....they announced the fact they were going private (from what i remember) long before the class action suit and the rest came to be
...in other words the fact knc promised in fall of 2013 they were gonna add upgrade modules to the Jupiter line and/or further juptier machines...and
also after they said they would not self mine beyond 5% etc....when they pulled the plug on that promise (bitcoinrama then left will like to talk to him
when his NDA expires prob in 10 years) .....then that is when people started TALKING about suing ..but the actual lawsuit etc from what I remember
did not come into play till long after KNC let the above intentions show...
in other words the lawsuits will claim that KNC delayed products to consumers to benefithte themselves as a long practice even before the Neptunes etc
that is how I remember it playing out anyway
it also waits to be seen if KNC can be sued....not a lot of consumer protection from what I can tell in this whole fiasco
whatever .....what do I know I used to think KNC was golden in 2013....