Also what they are forgetting is that Joe is/was as big a liar and possibly even bigger than Homero.  Only difference is Joe can keep his mouth shut which makes him dangerous.  Same shit different pile.  He just wants the value raised because Homero mostly payed him in XPY and he can't dump his shit coin and get payed until then.  What you need to ask yourself is would you trust your fiat with anyone one of these shmucks because this isn't the peoples coin its THEIR coin.