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Board Politics & Society
Re: Palestine & Israel? What do you think about that situation?
by
lophie
on 13/04/2015, 13:26:56 UTC

I have been talking down to people and belittling them. Why? Let me tell you. Jew-hatred has been a serious issue for a very long time. Less than a hundred years ago six mllion Jews were systematically exterminated in Europe. There are people on this thread who openly deny this, and I suspect others on the thread who believe it's exaggerated. Most people in Western countries believe it happened, as do I. I suspect most people of the Islamic world either have never heard of it, or have heard it's a lie. That's the world today.

Some of those Jews escaped, and in some cases they escaped to a territory under British controlled territory (formerly part of the Ottoman empire) called Palestine. Some Jews had always lived there. Many other Jews had already immigrated to this territory before Europe's troubles, partly because Britain had promised a homeland for the Jews in the region in the Balfour Declaration.

Now instead of being described as immigrants fleeing persecution, people are pretending they rode in on tanks and started demolishing houses of peaceful people. Does Israel have tanks now? Yes. But that's not how they got there. They got the tanks after they arrived and after it became clear so many neighboring countries were determined to destroy them. After the neighboring countries failed (on multiple occasions) to destroy Israel, those neighbors continued to use the Palestinians as proxies to attack Israel.

Now we have people comparing modern Israelis to the Nazis. People are spreading one-sided propaganda and a cartoonish view of the history and of the situation.

Why is this happening? I honestly believe this is happening because a majority of the world hates Jews. They are determined to undermine Israel as a legitimate country so that someday when Israel is destroyed people can accept it -- even celebrate it. The world hates Jews so much it is actively trying to bring about a second holocaust, and justify it preemptively.

I'm not trying to convince you -- or any one else -- of this. However, if you believed you were watching this happen, how would you behave towards the people trying to preemptively justify a second holocaust? Would you try to reason with them? Convince them they're wrong?

The OP could've just made a spelling error when he wrote "israel" instead of "Israel," but if that were the case it would've been corrected. It's perfectly clear to me (and should be to everyone) that he does it on purpose. Why? I submit that he purposefully writes "israel" to push the idea that it isn't a legitimate country. And he's doing it because he wants it destroyed. How should I react to someone like that? To someone who spends his time on a forum attempting to justify and bring about a second holocaust? Given this view of him, I've been extremely fucking polite, trust me.

And that's just one minor example.

It's frustrating. I wish I could stop a second holocaust, but obviously I can't. I think it'll probably happen, and we'll see video of Muslims around the world celebrating, the way Palestinians celebrated on September 11. Western leaders will say it was Israel's own fault for not coming to an agreement.

And I'll get to work on nanorobots that invade and deactivate the testicles of humans.


You started to sound funny. You are so emotional about this cause. Are you of a Jewish heritage? Let me open your mind to your self refuting arguments. You condescending piece of shit. Yes that is the first time I openly insult someone like this on these forums. You openly belittle people on this thread and brag about it? Okay then I will throw your fucking argument back on your face.

No one here denies the Jews struggle in Europe, Not even the dead children and women in every invaded Palestinian village by the Jewish Army. I am here, one of the people who at least want to give the Palestanian peoples' struggle and ordeal some dignity and respect, Acknowledgement and understanding.

Put yourself in their shoes, any of them. For one second in your self-righteous life. A foreign entity put another foreign entity on their land and gave them guns and power. And they moved to take over the land by force. You ask people here to read? Have you read any? In fact, have you WATCHED any? This is something that happens every day for the past 70 years! and youtube is FULL of recent videos submitted by locals and news reporters. There stories are not from books and wikipedias. Those are our childhood friends and families and their sisters, fathers and mothers and relatives. I feel for every Jew back in europe at that time and understand thier struggle but that is not an excuse to drive a tank on my bedroom. Not an excuse to kill my child in my own hands (Mohammad Al Dorra - Video evidence everywhere as it was documented and broadcasted worldwide - ) The child was shot with his dad as they hugged on the street asking for bullets to stop. Israeli citizens march and march for a long time now asking the government to STOP

http://972mag.com/no-more-deaths-israelis-protest-the-gaza-war/94380/

Read, Even the Jewish people there recognise the massacres and injustices. You are literally what you mocked. You denied and ignored hundreds of thousands that were systematically exterminated. You openly deny their ordeal and suffering. You are pretending they brought flowers and asked nicely to improve the neighbourhood. why do some compare them to Nazis? Because the right to the land is thought to be a right given to them by god since the old testament and they are permitted to do that to ANY that are there. They use that as an excuse to drive a well trained well organized militia into villages and small towns for the past half a century. You are a hypocrite. Fuck you and wishing to stop another holocaust. We are wishing for all death and killing to stop, Not just for the Jews.

Many of the best people I am friends with are Jews, Even more are Palestanian. War is ugly and the people in power do not care in either sides. In the end only the weak suffers and buried

You are not on a higher moral or intellectual grounds, You are just another asshole. Shove "talking down to people and belittling them" and your reasons for that up your ass.