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Re: Scientific proof that God exists?
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bl4kjaguar
on 21/04/2015, 06:12:19 UTC
If any one reads the Phoenix Journals, then invariably s/he will choose to conclude that the Journals are the WORD. Then, one will understand that GOD IS. MAN PLACES LIMITATIONS--GOD HAS NONE! Here are some highly relevant quotes:

WHETHER LONG OR SHORT--
THE ROAD MATTERS NOT IF THE FIRST STEP
IS NEVER TAKEN!

The Author
WELL, WHO AND WHAT IS A "HATONN"?
I am Gyeorgos (Yeorgos, George) Ceres Hatonn. Commander, United Federation Fleet, Inter-Galactic Federation Command, Status: Admiral of the ship, PHOENIX--in the higher command and within the service of that which can be recognized on Earth (Shan) place as the "Hosts", now present in your Earth sector to set records to straight and correct in preparation for that which you call a "Second Coming" of "God". To recognize the God/Christ being you must first recognize the Earth-bound enemy called the Anti-Christ and that particular tribe which is in attempt to gain total control of all nations of the Shan globe.

I come in dimensional form easily recognized and understood by you of third dimensional compression and form--I serve as a Commander from Constellation Pleiades having taken more compressed stature than that of ATON of my higher recognition. I care not that which OTHERS have told you, nor NEW AGE BLATHERINGS, I am exactly who I say that I AM!

WHO MIGHT YOU BE?

Subject Matter
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE--IF I BRING OF HOW IT IS? I have also said since onset of these writings that they are that which will be RECORDED AS THE HISTORICAL TRUTH OF THIS VERY AGE OF MANKIND AND EITHER WHAT WENT WRONG--OR THE RECORDS OF THE HISTORICAL RECLAMATION OF A PLANET!

I TREAT YOU LIKE THE WONDROUS, THINKING, REASONING, FREE-WILLED CREATIONS WORTHY OF YOUR LABEL OF "MAN", THE SON OF GOD--WITH GOD, IN HUMAN EXPERIENCE--about to lose your lives!

Not a Cult
I am in Command of the HOSTS (for lack of better definition) of the "good guys" sent from the Civilization of the Universe councils, the Federation, if you will. I am certainly not NEW AGE--I have told you before and I will repeat: The NEW AGE MOVEMENT "RELIGION" AND THE "RELIGION" WHICH IS BEING FOISTED OFF ON YOUR PLANET AS A ONE WORLD RELIGION--WILL DESTROY YOU!

Hatonn is a "space brother"
You ask WHY do I not appear and “make it right”? Because only the very minute numbers of your fragments would accept it. Do “I” claim perfection in my own role in this journey? NO--for I experience as your elder brother and my mission must share in the very things of earth expression. AM I PERFECT? I AM, and therefore what more is there to be? Am I a thought? A reality? A form? A vision? I am all of those things for I AM!

Being Responsible
YOU do not yet understand status or representation and most especially YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND GOD! You must attend those decisions yourselves.

I have only compassion for ones who denounce and have yet to even experience the information coming from this resource!

Blindness is no excuse if the Truth be available. READ ALL CHELAS, AND YOU DECIDE. DO NOT PETITION AND CRY “CONFUSION” FOR IF YOU HAVE STUDIED INFORMATION AS WE HAVE PRESENTED IT--THE ANSWERS ARE ALL FULLY PLACED BEFORE YOU.

Would you feel it logical that God would send you the cyanide laced mush of “waiting” and inaction while you magically purify and/or cleanse or perish--or, might you suppose that GOD would attend His children and their needs to the best of the ability present in the physical experience? Since you have nothing save to gain greatly by preparations--what in the world is the matter with you? Might it be wiser to act now and diddle with my location at a time when you are more likely to survive long enough to consider alternatives? WHICH TEACHER, GUIDE OR SERVANT WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE, A DO NOTHING, TELL NOTHING AND SUBSERVIENT DOODLER TO A COMPUTER OR A HOST OF GOD SENT FORTH TO HELP YOU THROUGH THIS NIGHTMARE AND INTO AWAKENING TO THE SWEET AND BEAUTEOUS GLORY OF THE UNIVERSE? WHO DID YOU EXPECT? HOW DID YOU EXPECT IT TO HAPPEN? THINK!! I have nothing to gain and my people gain only increased sleeplessness and hardship by our connection. You take it or leave it for force is not a part of GOD in any form. If you are “confused” then you are “uninformed” and that be YOUR FAULT, NOT OURS!



3) Atheism is incompatible with science because a brain that was produced by natural selection would have evolved to enhance survival not apprehend truth and it would not be a reliable tool for understanding anything.


Quote from: David Konstan. “Epicurus.” _Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy_. 2014. 22 Feb. 2015. link=http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/epicurus
[Epicurus] regarded the unacknowledged fear of death and punishment as the primary cause of anxiety among human beings, and anxiety in turn as the source of extreme and irrational desires.

Hyperreality is the “abridged” physicality utilized by the brain in such a way as to enhance the human animal’s capacity to serve the Anunnaki.

In the same tone as given to me, sir--get your intelligence out of your assets and come into the professional maturity of the task at hand.

I represent the One LIGHT, the One Source, that One who was honored as the "sun" being, meaning LIFE SOURCE and, in Egypt at the time of reinstitution of the ONE GOD CONCEPT (Creator of Life Capability) was known and recognized as Ra or Aton. What there is that is so difficult to understand eludes me--you seem to be very willing to accept horrible little monsters, grey humanoids, lizards and serpent-people!! Or, is the GAME to discount the very promise of GOD ETERNAL--TO BRING YOU THE TRUTH IN WORD AND SEND MESSENGERS AT YOUR TIME OF EVOLVEMENT AND POSSIBLE DESTRUCTION IN SOME KIND OF PLANNED ARMAGEDDON?? Or, did you think God would come and do these things through Jim Bakker or Bill Clinton? People, I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU BELIEVE--MY JOB IS TO BRING THIS WORD TO THIS PLACE AND YOU CAN DENY IT, ACCEPT IT, HOPE IT RIGHT, WRONG OR FOLLOW THE PIPER--THAT IS YOUR BUSINESS, YOUR SOUL AND YOUR CHOICE! DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND ME? I DO NOT TREAD ON YOUR BUSINESS--AND I EXPECT THE POWERS THAT CONTROL YOU TO MEET THEIR AGREEMENTS WITH ME! WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR OWN SOULS, IF THERE ARE ANY PRESENT, AND WHAT YOU ONES DECIDE TO DO WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE AND EXPRESSION--IS UP TO YOU. I AM GOING TO, IF YOU GET TOO ROUGH, GOOD BUDDIES, TAKE GOD'S PEOPLE OFF THE PLACE
--AND IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A BLUE BEAM RAPTURE OR A BAPTIST RAPTURE.

I offer this material humbly, and hope that you have the patience (or skills) to read through the truth about man and god.
I know that it is difficult to discuss knowledge outside of an empirical context, but the Phoenix Journals deserve discussion; I personally have found it highly valuable to use the content-source problem as a framework for evaluating the truth of the Journals; check out these papers:
THE CONTENT-SOURCE PROBLEM IN MODERN MEDIUMSHIP RESEARCH
THE PROBLEM OF SETH'S ORIGIN

May you have grown in KNOWING in that you can feel and see the beat of the marching feet of GOD’s troops--in the reality of that which IS and beyond and into that which WILL BE! The fate of your nation, all nations, and your planet depends upon that which YOU know and come to understand--and within the actions in intelligent wisdom.

There is only ONE “REALITY” unto which to awaken and that is unto LIGHTED GOD OF CREATION--for you are experiencing in expression manifest--that thought of God which is actually THE DREAM. When you truly awaken unto reality it will be beyond mere measures to change of your neighbor or your government or even the adversary--for you will find that ALL THAT CAN AND WILL BE CHANGED AND AWAKENED IN SELF!

So, will all mankind be awakened? You have no way to know that which is a souled being from that which is not--so why effort to sort--GOD SHALL DO THE SORTING--you must do the discerning within the experience so that ALL may receive and then there shall be no problem for you, will there? If, however, YOU do not believe or serve in total presentation--how can you expect “another” to receive? If you do not hold in thine depth of reality--truth of your beingness--you shall be tossed and turned upon the waves of doubt until you “downfall” for only physical expression is based upon doubts and fears of the Reality of GOD CREATOR!

Username18333, Please also consider the reference and points of John Lennox as to the absurdity of atheism; it is hard to make sense of the world under the materialist hypothesis.

Nagel insists that we know some things to exist even if materialism omits or ignores or is oblivious to them . . . It doesn’t explain, for example, why the world exists at all, or how life arose from nonlife. Closer to home, it doesn’t plausibly explain the fundamental beliefs we rely on as we go about our everyday business: the truth of our subjective experience, our ability to reason, our capacity to recognize that some acts are virtuous and others aren’t. These failures, Nagel says, aren’t just temporary gaps in our knowledge, waiting to be filled in by new discoveries in science. On its own terms, materialism cannot account for brute facts. Brute facts are irreducible, and materialism, which operates by breaking things down to their physical components, stands useless before them. “There is little or no possibility,” he writes, “that these facts depend on nothing but the laws of physics.”

These things are known to be real by sheer common sense; the fact that materialism rejects them as the effects of solely physical processes seriously undercuts the ideology’s ability to make sense of the world.

Quote from: Kurt Gödel
I don’t think the brain came in the Darwinian manner. In fact, it is disprovable. Simple mechanism can’t yield the brain. I think the basic elements of the universe are simple. Life force is a primitive element of the universe and it obeys certain laws of action. These laws are not simple, and they are not mechanical.

I certainly hope that you and others who are reading will take the responsibility to check out these references for yourselves, then you can decide if that truth is "VALID".

Readers and listeners--this is YOUR story entwined with mine only in the higher level of soul journey unto Source. I, as teacher/guide, act as conduit for knowledge and that knowledge MUST come in a manner which is acceptable in perception of that which IS. Prophets tell of “that which shall come to pass”--mine is more the bringing of understanding of that which “has passed” and a display of those things which have borne you “up” or “pulled you down”. These are things unneeding of “faith” in the seen or the unseen--but writings of truth that your perception can handle that which IS and make your directions fitting for journey through THAT knowledge. COULD I be a prophet--indeed and so I AM; however, a prophet but speaks of that which will come and, lest you change your manifested expression--that which will come has already been written for this “play”. Mine, then, is to allow you to see that which is unfolding in a way that it MUST be seen in Truth--not illusion of “wishes”. Fantasies are those thoughts of imaginings upon which unreality is based--dreaming in perspective unto that which can be in experience is the thought through which NEW directions and manifestation expression can be achieved--indeed, MUST BE ACHIEVED. If man focuses his creative thoughts in oneness of “thought unity” the form creates itself. I am your co-experiencer--but you are the physical aspect, at this time of travel, which must function as the “doers” for man cannot understand reality otherwise. If ye be honest and true in your INTENT IN DIRECTION AND SERVICE, you wish it not otherwise for you have come TO DO IT. I am that which guides and responds and will bring you safely into port.

In most instances if your brother who does see and we who speak out, do not point it out unto you, it is missed and the gallows are sprung in your unknowing and misery. Indeed, chelas, if ALL were PERFECTION--there would be no need for the experience. Ponder it.

If a man REFUSES intentionally to recognize his Source and the Laws as absolute (not voted-in to suit physical expression and luxurious comfort and physical senses), then that becomes between that individual and GOD and is not your business. You do not judge--but neither do you continue a wrong-way journey--IF INDEED YOU ARE SEEKING HIGHER UNDERSTANDING, FREEDOM, AND GOD. FURTHER, ALL THINGS IN ANY PHYSICAL EXPERIENCE MUST BE HANDLED FOR THE BEST AND HIGHEST GOOD OF THAT WHICH REPRESENTS THE HIGHEST CAUSE. BECAUSE OF THE FREE-WILL STATUS OF “MAN”, CHANGES MUST BE MADE, SOMETIMES INSTANTLY, IN THE FOCUS ON THE GOAL OF HIGHEST CAUSE TOWARD TRUTH, LOVE, FREEDOM AND GOD.