Ok, sorry to keep on replying. 

I just tried each card in both slots and both cards simultaneously in differint orders also testing it like that while powering one card with another computers 6pin that was more than enough power.  I don't think wattage is an issue since I can go in bois and use the windows boot menu no matter what before it trys to boot forever.

Since both card slots work I'm hoping that its some issue with windows, maybe I can test it with a bootable cd?  I could try ubuntu I guess.

Maybe Nvidia and ATI just don't work together in my motherboard or has any body ever done this?