er Neptunes are going for $650 usd on Ebay I just saw today....even assuming you have the PSU's from say other miners....the
advice that mining with a Neptune is silly ...an't that much of a stretch imho

(esp at my rate of 12kwh ..this includes all taxes fees etc..the considerate xcel energy says it really is only 0.08c kwh ....heh )

so in any case I'd not shoot the messenger over if getting a home miner and/or Neptune in particular an't the best choice now imho

and I can't throw stones at scammers...hard to tell them from the supposed 'legit companies' i bought from BFL when I was a newbie
and KNC.... a jupiter which I did well on ...and have a 1st batch Titan ...after they went the scammer route for more $$$

so again.....getting on bitcointalk and saying folk have got taken from scammer(s) in one way or another and they should stop posting
I think 80% of folk on here would have to refrain

whatever my view ...wtf do I know I got stuff from BFL (did get refunded by luck 1yr 20 days later) and KNC 1st batch Titan...I'll be the first
to admit I don't know zip

again as to Phoenix1969 ....drop him a PM and ask him what he sold all his BTC mined for at what price.....heh ....me I should paid more attention to him in hindsight!!!

oh and for the new folk..he did get his 51 BTC back again like me was lucky...live an learn ..exciting times in bitcoinland!