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Re: [BitcoinMax.com] Closing down
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JoelKatz
on 28/08/2012, 13:35:31 UTC
but now you just do rant over rant about pirate. why? its over; please just stop this mess. i did understand your warning about "pirate selling pirate debt" - that was good (maybe a little to often).
I don't want this to happen again. I want the community to learn the maximum amount possible from this mess. And I see significant efforts to prevent the community from learning a lesson.

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payb.tc was VERY clear that he just passes money to pirate. as long as this passthrough existed there where many threads in this forum warning people about pirate - everybody should think for himself.
I can very clearly say that all contributions to the bitcoin address in my signature will be used to hire a hitman to kill my boss. That doesn't absolve me of responsibility for hiring a hitman to kill my boss. The issue is not what Pirate did with the money or how he induced people to give him the money -- the issue is what he paid Pirate to do.

For those who argue the PPT operators did nothing wrong, should they do it again next time?

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he was just offering a service for people (like me) which dont want to invest that much money at once but still would like to gain 7% interest. he did a very good job and was very open about it.
Again, the issue is what he paid Pirate to do. It has nothing to do with the service he provided or whether he was honest or lied about what he was doing. He knowingly paid Pirate to fraudulently transfer to him money that he knew was obtained from others on the false promise that it would be legitimately invested -- a transfer he knew was not in fact a legitimate investment.

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he made it clear when and how much he will pay. what's your problem with that?
My problem with that is that he knowingly participated in a scam, drew others into that scam, and attempted to profit from it. And if he agrees with you, he still sees nothing wrong with that.