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Re: June 10th, 2015] Ponzis Explained w/ Analysis & Ratings
by
Gantz
on 10/06/2015, 15:45:04 UTC
Hi all and Welcome to Ponzis Explained w/ Analysis & Ratings!


INTRODUCTION

What is this!?
This is a weekly analitic thread about ponzis and HYIPs running on this subforum. Where i will try to rate them as neutral as possible, even better if your help.

Why do you do this!?
Basically because I like share my thought processes and my experience about them (crypto versions, not real money ones). And also to help the newbies to fall in obvious scams. (neither a ponzi, just a "collect&runaway")

Oh ok...But who are you!?
I'm a long time lurker of this subforum, and yes... sometimes, very rarely, I have invested on them.

Why are you wasting your time with them? They're all scams!
Yes and No, Yes because 99% of the time they haven't a real business behind them or owners runs away quickly with all funds, and No because even if they haven't a real business behind them, some ponzi/HYIP (not all) can be profitable if you exploit it and understand how it works. I consider these just a gambling game with a potential good edge.

Ok, after this little introduction we can start!



WEEKLY TOPICS

#1 Trasparency: Why is the most important factor to be considered before make an "investment".

The system's trasparency is very important, and in my experience the first thing to look, for trasparency I mean:

- If website description is true (we make financial investements...NO, we are a ponzi...OK);
- If website stats are all showed and public (balance, total investment, total paid, all in&out transactions and not just last 100 for example) and this is the "key" to understand if join the system or not;
- If the system is manipulated (fake transactions are the most important indicator of very risky website, and also the most common practice used).

#2 Longevity: It's extremely important knowing how to estimate how much can HYIPs runs. Factors to be considered:

- How many days did it start?
- Their offers/plans are too high?
- How much effort they were put into their project?
- There is a good general interest in the project?
- The owner has already had other projects? How he behaved in the past?



WEEKLY TIPS

#1 Never be greedy, one good investment can be much better than ten bad investments, be patient, wait an opportunity... and push!

#2 Stay informed, learn to identify owners, they can change nick but not their habits and sometimes even if the system seems good to invest, the greediness of the owner brings to close the project prematurely.



RATINGS *Updated to June 10th, 2015 - All ratings can change in the future.

Risk: It's referred to the actual risk to join the system on last update.
Gantz Rating: It's a changeable global vote that include my wish to join at the last update, basically a site can be rated 7/10 at the start and only 1/10 when I think that he will die soon.




ACTIVE SYSTEMS

  URL  
  TRASPARENCY  
  POTENTIAL LONGEVITY  
      CONCEPT      
        PLAN        
       RISK        
  GANTZ RATING  
Nine9.ninja
10/10
INFINITE
7/10
0-125% No Time
HIGH
4/10
CONSIDERATIONS: Hybrid ponzi/gambling game, deposits/bets expires and game continues, actually queue is short. This game is totally trasparent, all stats, transactions and addresses are public.

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  URL  
  TRASPARENCY  
  POTENTIAL LONGEVITY  
      CONCEPT      
        PLAN        
       RISK        
  GANTZ RATING  
CrazyPonzi.com
1/10
INFINITE
7/10
0-140% No Time
HIGH
3/10
CONSIDERATIONS: This can be considered more a betting game than a ponzi, if fact this can continue indefinitely, bets expires and game continues. They don't publish deposit and payout transactions, this game can be easily manipulated.

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  URL  
  TRASPARENCY  
  POTENTIAL LONGEVITY  
      CONCEPT      
        PLAN        
       RISK        
  GANTZ RATING  
cherryRace.com
0/10
MEDIUM
4/10
4% Daily
HIGH
1/10
CONSIDERATIONS: There is no trasparency at all. Their concept could be attractive, but it's just a normal HYIP. Stats on homepage are not updated.

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  URL  
  TRASPARENCY  
  POTENTIAL LONGEVITY  
      CONCEPT      
        PLAN        
       RISK        
  GANTZ RATING  
Dr-Bitcoin.com
0/10
MEDIUM
4/10
2,6-3,6% Daily
HIGH
1/10
CONSIDERATIONS: They want big fishes, see their plans. In fact I considered only the dailys, other plans are just insanely high. Not transparent, can be easily manipulated. Potential longevity is compromised due to possibility to run away after that some big fish join. Their effort in the project can be considered a good thing.

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  URL  
  TRASPARENCY  
  POTENTIAL LONGEVITY  
      CONCEPT      
        PLAN        
       RISK        
  GANTZ RATING  
MMMGlobal.org
1/10
LONG
1/10
120-200% Monthly
HIGH
1/10
CONSIDERATIONS: Hybrid chain letter/ponzi, not trasparent system and primarily no stats at all. This makes really hard understand in which status is the system, and their very slow earning system should discourage to join.

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DEAD SYSTEMS

  URL  
  TRASPARENCY  
  POTENTIAL LONGEVITY  
      CONCEPT      
        PLAN        
           RISK        
  GANTZ RATING  
ProfitCoins.org
0/10
SHORT
1/10
8-15% Daily
   EXTR. HIGH
0/10
CONSIDERATIONS: Payments stopped, stay away.

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  URL  
  TRASPARENCY  
  POTENTIAL LONGEVITY  
      CONCEPT      
        PLAN        
           RISK        
  GANTZ RATING  
HkbIncome.com
0/10
   VERY SHORT
1/10
25-50% Daily
VERY HIGH
0/10
CONSIDERATIONS: Very short HYIP, that because their plans are offering very high returns, be careful.

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  URL  
  TRASPARENCY  
  POTENTIAL LONGEVITY  
      CONCEPT      
        PLAN        
           RISK        
  GANTZ RATING  
btc-goldmine.com
2/10
   VERY SHORT
3/10
250% in 10 Days
VERY HIGH
0/10
CONSIDERATIONS: Tricky HYIP, design is really cool and attractive, but basically it's just a short term HYIP, probably very short. Be careful. People can login in other accounts and withdraw instead of the owner, what they need is just the BTC address.

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  URL  
  TRASPARENCY  
  POTENTIAL LONGEVITY  
      CONCEPT      
        PLAN        
           RISK        
  GANTZ RATING  
StableBit.biz
5/10
SHORT
4/10
1% until 200/220/240%
   EXTR. HIGH
0/10
CONSIDERATIONS: Payments stopped, stay away. Greedy owner.

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  URL  
  TRASPARENCY  
  POTENTIAL LONGEVITY  
      CONCEPT      
        PLAN        
           RISK        
  GANTZ RATING  
CryptoHours.com
1/10
   VERY SHORT
3/10
2% Hourly, 200%Max
   EXTR. HIGH
0/10
CONSIDERATIONS: Payments stopped, stay away.

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  URL  
  TRASPARENCY  
  POTENTIAL LONGEVITY  
      CONCEPT      
        PLAN        
           RISK        
  GANTZ RATING  
EdgeCoin.com
1/10
SHORT
3/10
5% Daily
   EXTR. HIGH
0/10
CONSIDERATIONS: Payments stopped, stay away.

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  URL  
  TRASPARENCY  
  POTENTIAL LONGEVITY  
      CONCEPT      
        PLAN        
           RISK        
  GANTZ RATING  
Bit-Protect.com
4/10
MEDIUM
3/10
Multiplan
HIGH
0/10
CONSIDERATIONS: Hybrid real money/crypto HYIP, investement plans not totally clear, try them on calculator, actually in early game. System is early dead. Greedy owner.

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  URL  
  TRASPARENCY  
  POTENTIAL LONGEVITY  
      CONCEPT      
        PLAN        
           RISK        
  GANTZ RATING  
LucreBit.com
2/10
SHORT
2/10
10-20% Daily
   VERY HIGH
0/10
CONSIDERATIONS: Not much trasparency, system actually in late game, probably it's too late to invest. System Dead.

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If you want another rating ask in this thread, when i have time I will update this post or will be posted in the next week thread!


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IMPORTANT: I can be easily wrong, what i'm saying here it's not the absolute truth!

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