The two responses from self proclaimed cryptocurrency professionals are exposing to say the least. Roberto and his associates seem to have a cunning ability to twist facts and churn statements to outcomes they believe will end in their favor. A great example of this is how the 'Jetcoin Institute' now conveniently exists in Singapore to back up claims of a product that still does not exist. Everyone can see right through this as it did not exist as part of public record just less than 48 hours ago.
Not once have we been defensive of anything throughout our responses. All we have done is state the facts for everyone to review and to contribute awareness to the fact that we have stated the facts. We are not the ones here who continue to misrepresent the facts or spread disinformation. We are not and have not stated that we are investigators and still wonder why anyone is making that claim. The only reason that anyone believes that we are investigating them is guilt. It is not our fault that this group has done what it has done. Please take the time to review our statements and reasonably solicit the services of a translator if the absolute truth remains unclear.
Roberto whether intentionally or not has again ventured to change both open and common knowledge in a deceptively consistent manner as part of a failing effort to sway public opinion to the benefit of whomever he thinks he is attempting to persuade. It is fact that the Jetcoin Institute is not the original owner of Jetcoin in any form or fashion and there is nothing that can be done to change this. Even the issue of threats in combination with statements that painfully disclose the level of discomfort present within its representatives will not eradicate the history of this blunder. The defamation of our integrity will only confirm the misunderstanding embedded strongly within the minds of the said associates.
Businesses are not games and being that the Jetcoin Institute by method of a clear representative has now backed down to the use of vulgar language, it has now inadvertently disclosed a component of a true nature of hypocrisy. It nor its representatives can not even be bold enough to acknowledge its wrongdoings and mistakes as it attempts to continue entry into the field of cryptocurrency. Probability indicates that another threat will be issued by this organization and that is definitely not what cryptocurrency is about. The accreditation of what this group publicizes is a restraining conflict with the very principles it proclaims.
No respectable company or individual would resort to the verbal or visual tactics that is accurately reflected in our reference to that approach. It is the public that must decide its stance. In closing, we will leave quotation as reference to the original comments of the representative just in case they contradict or forgo the deletion of their own false allegations:
'Roberto', your use of the English language nearly exactly matches that of 'Eric Alexandre'. Do not worry, as we are not going to waste the time or resources confirming that statement. What is true is that you in fact did comment on the comment.
We are both non English mother tongue, he is French, I am Italian (just go to https://jetcoininstitute.com/#board to see our faces not so hard of a research to do) this may be the reason why our English language is similar? You may NOT apply at some sort of law enforcement, as your investigative skills are quite low (first for using a name that is already used, then for claiming two different people are the same)
Or you use the troll attitude to defend yourself as you feel guilty?
As an adviser to the fake entity known as the 'Jetcoin Institute', perhaps a higher degree of research should have been implemented before any advice was presented to peers in the circle of mistrust being conveyed through the real entity of Ikon Media Pte Ltd.
Play a little investigative game with me: go to http://www.bizfile.gov.sg and type jetcoin in the search field. You will see that Jetcoin Institute is a registered business, not a fake entity (and pay attention to your claims in a public forum)
Had such research been conducted, it would have been clearly known that the real Jetcoin has been in existence since 2001, long before opportunists not located in Singapore laid a claim within the UK and brought in photoshop for a stake that truly does not exist in Italy. Any such claims to copyrights and trademarks are simply invalid.
Is it? Link please. It would be of great interest to me.
You have a registered company with "jetcoin" in the name? Open since 2001? Are you Satoshi Nakamoto?
It is just interesting to see the representatives of this project get on the defensive as if it has done something questionable in which it truly has. So, we are writing this to provide awareness on such issues as a statement from us can easily yield 20,000+ views here on bitcointalk alone without a single penny spent on such raising of awareness. Everyone on the planet needs to be aware of this very matter and we will most likely fail to attain such a goal.
To me the one on the defence attitude is you. I am an advisor and at the end of the day I can give less of a s**t of all this debate. I am replying as you are quoting my comment, and I find it respectful to reply. I take a laugh to your accusation, and I reply to them.
Let us not forget that we were in fact approached with both a statement and threat of action that simply isn't true. We are now on day two on this path of enlightenment on ways the project is conducting business. In fact, we have never once claimed any patent in Jetcoin. So do not mislead this forum or potential clients with language that is intentionally confusing to the average person.
Me? Not sure what you are referring to.
We have never cloned your non-existent product and everyone with access to Google can easily confirm this fact. In fact, it only takes less than 30 minutes to produce a quality NXT clone and that time period includes installing Ubuntu. Everyone knows that we are not into NXT or any of its derivatives and we will not produce a product based on that platform due to various reasons. For anyone to state that we cloned your product, including you, is simply ludicrous. It is true, however, that the non-existent entity you represent did in fact utilize our work and we have never authorized any external entity to do so.
Oh, sorry, misunderstanding. I meant cloning the brand. Not the technology. Jetcoin has mobile apps so far, I doubt you have cloned any of those. I meant that if I do a dark beverage with my own recipe and call it coca cola I am cloning coca in the means that users get confused, and if coca cola has spent a lot of money promoting their brand they can be quite upset with me. If, tho, my grand-grand-grand-grand father had a shop selling drinks named coca cola in 1700 I may stand a chance to prove they did copied me, and not the other way around. If you are in business with a jetcoin since 2001 as you claim above, then full respect you are the one entitled to the name.
For you to say that our real product is a clone or similar in any way is just not true. What we are working on is completely different and will never be the same just as Chrysler makes an 'Engine', Ford also makes an 'Engine'. Any five year old can grasp the concept of the preceding sentences with great ease.
Ford is named FORD not CHRYSLER. A 3 years old can grasp the concept.
It is shame that anyone has spent any amount of funds on advertising this. We can only surmise that those funds where also obtained in a questionable fashion as well. We will repeat this: do not mislead anyone with false statements. We have never used any funds that you claimed we have utilized. Your statement clearly and without doubt misrepresents the facts as we have never had access to any funds in which you stated that we used. We find such language to be outrageous if not slanderous as well.
Again, blame my English, what I meant (and a 3 years old can grasp the concept) is that using the same name that someone else paid to promote, you are enjoying the effect of the advertisement made by someone else. You better understand this, because it is possibly the main claim Jetcoin lawyers will do against your jetcoin. If today I come out with my own car with an engine so you are happy, and I call it Ferrari, and it is red with a horse in the logo, then I may get traction with the public because people may think wrongly that my cars are in fact those of that famous brand named "Ferrari". Now, Jetcoin (not you, the other one) has sponsored a Series A soccer team. That costs a lot of money. You may end up misleading people thinking your product is in fact that one that is promoted in the soccer team t-shirts. It is a simple concept, I hope you can understand it. I am saying it just for you, as I have nothing to do with all this.
To summarize, you are right in that you are not an expert. We doubt that you truly understand blockchain technology and are amused that you are an 'adviser' in such a field. You nor those that you claim you do not represent do not have permission to use our work and continued use of it is a clear violation of our rights.
Well, I maybe not into the blockchain technology since 2001 as you (wow), but believe me I have my share of knowledge in this field. I have no interest whatsoever for you to have any interest on me anyways. I pull myself out of this discussion, and wish you the best of luck with your coin and fast mining project (which is cool, btw).
be less arrogant and life will smile to you. Take some cool advices from other users, and yes, this is bitcointalk anyways, I almost forgot...
Everyone else, don't buy more popcorns as this ends here (on my side).
R
Please don't stop Roberto!..I haven't had this much fun in a while over here!
It's fun to see that the "Bitcoin Mothers" Are still clutching to their babies trying to save them from the IMAGINARY pack of Wild NXT Dingo's..
It will be a rude awakening when they do figure out that we are not the enemy and Bitcoin isn't the ONLY solution, but all of us are in this together to make a better world
It's fun to see that the "Bitcoin Mothers" Are still clutching to their babies trying to save them from the IMAGINARY pack of Wild NXT Dingo's..
It will be a rude awakening when they do figure out that we are not the enemy and Bitcoin isn't the ONLY solution, but all of us are in this together to make a better world
Oh noooo the PoW vs the PoS debate
I never visualized BTc fanboys as "mothers"... the only mental image of miners I have is this very cute one:
