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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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wozzek23
on 01/07/2015, 11:17:13 UTC
I am truncating both my previous post and the Renegade's just to make this easier to peruse...


Nomen est omen, do not forget this ancient truth, you children of today, Nomen est omen.


You've raised some very salient points Wozzek. As I've stated before, I don't agree with some of your assessments about the name change (as I've previously mentioned, 'Darkcoin' was just never going to be workable for anything other than a very tiny sliver of humanity that would identify with such a brand) but I do appreciate your articulation of (what's becoming clear to me) a somewhat mixed up approach on what it is we have here, and how we're getting the message out.
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There is clearly a marketing/positioning issue with Dash and it's not going to go away by ignoring it. Some of Wozzek's (effectively) "all things to all people" complaint has validity. The worst thing would be to just ignore him because his view doesn't meet with our group-think view on how we're going to make Dash successful.

Perhaps this isn't the most appropriate forum to discuss this but there's clearly the need to sort through some stuff as I'm of the view there's now some level of confusion as to what Dash is and who it's for.

While I'm not advocating going the route I'll mention later, I must state that "tiny sliver of humanity" (can it be tiniest from what we have now, several of us lunatics talking and even smaller number of brilliant programmers developing the tech) might be a myopic view as well as long as the "humanity" is deemed as legal, banks enabled and governments enslaved population as a whole.

However, there's the "second biggest economy in the world" we overlooked, the whole shadow economy, estimated at about 20% of the world's trade **, that would greatly benefit from what Darkcoin offers. Remittance business is part of it but "cleaner" so I wonder, why not put some efforts into this market or any other. As I stated numerous times, you support Greenwald and / or Assange, they acknowledge that and voila!, as a "side effect" you have a huge number of their followers suddenly being aware of an instrument that would help them help the cause they love. Man, the people FEAR supporting Wiki-leaks because of this fascist snooping but do not have an alternative Darkcoin might have offered.

If we moved toward the markets that NEEDS us, instead of delusionally striving to get on, what do I know, Amazon dot com and it's ilks (these mythical "big retailers" and / or "big exchanges" I am beating to the pulp, sorry) we'd be able to have a sense of progress, even if only 1 out of 100 "entities" accept us.

Mind you, a project once it is out attracts other people, other businesses, creates other ideas so, what do I know, a Meetup in Hong Kong or Manila could ask the venue (hey, they have 10 - 20 - 100 people coming regularly) to accept a new form of payment, a coin, be it Darkcoin as well. You do not live in a bubble like we here seem to be living, stubbornly insisting on a wrong approach. (mass adoption)

No one is going to adopt us unless the alternative does it firstly. You know, after our lunatic fringe, the first adopters etc., and only the power of numbers can force / create an environment that might enable serious growth in "conservative" businesses, for the lack of a better word. While this is a bit stretched to include in this discussion, ponder Apple vs. Taylor battle. Apple is one of the most fascist corporations in the world, creating a bevy of fanatics following their every marketing nonsense but they crush you as you would a bug if you don't obey their policy. Only that blonde, because of enormous power of her followers was able to force them change their ridiculous stance on that three months free stipulation.

We are no one, no where to be seen. We must look for allies in our natural habitat, among the people that need what we offfer.

Evan is genius, right. But how many truly revolutionary features he and the team can come up after:
-- InstantX;
-- DarkSend;
-- Masternode Blinding;
-- Decentralized Governance?
are already out? Instant-aner-XY?

All those great innovations did not create even a ripple effect in the crypto ocean. No one gives a flying fuck, let us face it no matter how painful the truth might seem. I am sending the money (USD) to a fucked up country in the vicinity of Greece, week after week now, and I have to pay $10.00 to $20.00 fee for any amount, no matter how small and my friend has to pay additional 4.25% fee on the exchange rate. How to improve that? How to embed, yes, Darkcoin / Dash / XY into a normal economy (exchange for fiat) because the dream of Dash based economy is an utter nonsense, when we think about a year, five, ten or more years from now...

How do you sell "DASH", tell me, when someone familiar with the BitCOIN or DogeCOIN asks you what is it? How do you start, it is not a coin, but... it is currency no, not the currency, digital cash... all that in the world (our, so-called "developed") in which 99% of all cash is digital, in the world in VISA performs the same function as InstantX for ages, in the world in which studies are coming out how wasteful Bitcoin mining is.

How to utilize Masternodes to do some Useful Computing? How to make all of this USEFUL for these that NEED, either MN's ability to compute, or this technology's ability to - almost for FREE - instantaneously transport the store of value from one side of the world to another, without prying eyes of criminals or criminal governments etc., etc., etc.

Darkcoin had its identity. It might have been wrong -- not for me for even if it really symbolizes something dark, even better, we are all, the whole fucking world are in the dark, under enormous shadow of less then friendly governments, no matter how they call themselves -- but had its identity. This DASH ("we are not the coin") thing does not.

I still honestly want to be proven wrong, but I would not badger on this issue unless I deeply believed DASH was a mistake of the century, that hastily done, under false pretense re-branding process. And now we pester over some video that needs eternity to be done and that would, only because it has taken so much time, provoke negative reactions once it is out.

The technology is RADICAL and REVOLUTIONARY. Everything around it is not.


** more on the shadow economy: http://foreignpolicy.com/2011/10/28/the-shadow-superpower/