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Now how about the convenience of those cameras from China, ah?

Would you like to receive a camera and try the application which is developed to industrial end-users?
Please PM your address and phone number and we will be very happy to ship a device to you, create an account for you so you could evaluate the technology.

Thank you for the offer but why don't you explain to me, clearly, exactly in what way would this be profitable for your future DAC? Because this is already in use, and has been for more than a decade, in all kinds of industrial uses, from traffic and weather services to banks and cities in general, not to mention law enforcement, prisons, detention centers... where is the PLAN to make money out of it? It is FREE already. I am sure I am missing something here... but you will be kind as usual to illuminate me on the possibilities. And I am assuming -but I am sure you have all that covered-, some kind of insurance is involved against vandalism, weather damages and the like. Installation, it goes without saying, will be left to the purchaser which, naturally, will be experts at it...

While you are at it, please let me know how you propose the DAC to be a profit point for Gadget investors. Also some more specifics of the PLAN, such as carrying the books, file taxes and actually taking care of all internal deployment, control and administration. I understand that guy, Tardi, will take care of simple orders, but what happens when there has to be 24/7 customer service, administration personnel, implementation and distribution personnel... because, as you keep on pointing out, this is not just (let me put that "just" in quotes) a few models here, a bunch of gamers there, a control of content so the authorities don't just close the shop, but constant search for IoT venues, such as there cameras... also, again, explain to me how you can make money of things that are already in use and have been for many years, completely for free. For instance, anyone with a smart phone can control the temperature of his refrigerators from across the world, not to mention the thermostat of his/her air conditioning, record TV programs etc... all for free. How do you beat FREE? Again, I'm sure I'm missing a lot here, but confident you have all bases covered.

Once I have all that explained clearly to me, I would gladly test these cameras that have been selling for years and, frankly, don't require your software at all for they come already equipped with everything necessary to connect them to your internet... Once again, I am missing something here but will be anxiously awaiting for your clear explanations and willing to get on the phone with Jamie Dimon himself to get this -and the enormous savings it will bring to him- implemented at every Chase office nin the planet.

Now you are arguing that IoT will have no place in the world. If you would stick to your legitimate concerns you would find that people would take you seriously.

Credibility is not a problem I have... to your chagrin. And I am not arguing, I am honestly (what a word ah/ if only you would have the slightest hint of what it means...) asking for clarification.

Let me put it to you -and above all, others with more... lights, shall we say? Yes, people could sell stuff to each other on the internet... some even do. And yet, if people want to sell their stuff, they have to do using Amazon, and paying the hefty fees that go with it, or eBay, and paying not only the hefty fees but also the fees of PayPal. I know you believe that people is stupid for doing that, of course but, as in so many things, you are dead wrong. But I digress...

All my concerns -about this project- are quite legitimate... as opposed to your perceived interests.

I never said that people are stupid for using Paypal, or ebay. You seem to think I am shilling this project. Go find a post where I am shilling, please. Also ebay and paypal fit into this.......how? Are you suggesting that because I am interested in cryptocurrency I believe that anyone not using it for low fees is stupid?