Try -zapwallettxes at startup.
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thanks Tranz

backed up my .dat
used that command and balances were both at 0, that confused me
so i removed the command and put my backup . dat in place
restarted and now both balances match, unfortunately at the lower value, but at least its consistent

not sure if i used the command wrong, i dont use a conf and always just adapt the filename of my qt shortcut, adding the commands there, always seems to work

i guess the higher no in transactionns was an error then?