Volder started questioning Joshs motives pretty early on. He made multiple posts on hashtalk asking questions thaqt everyone wanted to know. So much to the point his account got banned or shadowed at least once.
Volder was a true supporter until at least mid-December, 2014. Although I have no ill feelings towards him, he was warned of what to expect as early as late July/early August of 2014 and chose to stick with it.
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Scott, and not only did he stick with it he denounced those with valid points as being fudders. Volder actually if he had any shred of human decency should do a public apology on his feeds to set it straight just as equally as he promoted it through his feeds. At least bitjane had some sort of decency to come clean volder won't swallow the pride.
Don't get me wrong I think Bitjane should hold some degree of punishment here as she "WAS" paid to do the editing and mod stuff so is part of this scheme. I don't believe a harsh punishment is warranted but she deserves something to put her in line other than a I admit I was wrong. Its fine if you are unpaid but when you are paid you are part of it good and bad.