Also, unlike the childish rethoric of poors vs rich or smallblockers vs. blockstream brought to you by very naive people, Mike & Gavin have pretty much revealed themselves as indeed very dangerous for Bitcoin. That's a difference and it needs to be addressed. AFAIK none of the small blocks proponent have put the ecosystem at risk like these two clowns did.
Yes, XT has already lost:
You continue to be a source of comedy gold. You have been played for a fool, and now you are out on your own, alone, with nothing to fight.
The debate will continue without you - we are now deciding what size the increase will be.
It seems to me team Blockstream is leading the debate as we speak! Who do you represent? The 8MBers? Ewww.