i well  aware of that and that's why  but not the same power usage is my point it does  say s3 +  aren't  they really the same  s3 and s3 +  . at least i replaced a s3 + board with a reg s3 board i bought off ebay that works just  like a S3 + but that's not the point im trying to make I'm trying to be very positive  and not prove any one wrong or right .