I understand there is a lack of alternatives, and there is not a better place for up to date information.
But, in the light of Bitcoin and what it represents, neither of these platforms promote the same ideologies. So, just curious to reach out and ask why the community continues to visit these sites? What is your take? Would you move to another platform? What would it take? What are your favorite alternatives? And 170,000 odd subscribers, what # do you estimates is multiple user accounts (I personally have about 8 of those) and active Bitcoiners?
because both are the most popular places on the internet with the highest number of users. as for bitcointalk, i think it was the first bitcoin forum that was created and satoshi was on here.
besides there is no better place to go from here. bitcointalk loads fast and easy and it is up all the time. and reddit is a good option since i use it for other subs i subscribe to /r/bitcoin too.
i have tries a couple of other crypto related forums (like cryptocointalk.com of the top of my mind) but there is just not enough life there to make me want to visit them regularly. and honestly i don't see anybody leaving these two places until the rules are the same as what they are now and meanwhile there is not better place to go.