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Re: Is the guy proposing BIP 106 from India ?
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CounterEntropy
on 08/09/2015, 19:20:59 UTC
Its great that Indians are thinking about the blocksize issue but this BIP does not have much to contribute.

UpalC proposed this solution in this sub-forum and then ignored the criticisms to the idea.
Dynamic blocksize is being discussed since atleast 2 years now and he is the first to formalize it. That is appreciated but there is a reason why the devs did not do it 2 years ago - it doesn't solve the blocksize issue at all, it only just states how to increase/decrease the blocksize & that too in a pro-centralization manner.

I tried explaining him the issues through every medium I could, but I guess he perceived me as a jealous fellow, so I gave up & backed out. I am still writing this post because many Indians tend to jump over anything "Indian" without considering its merits & that presents a bad representation of my country.

Anyways, all the problems I stated were repeated by other people when he presented it on reddit and in the dev sub-forum. Again he had no answers and ignored them too.

I would request people to read his BIP and you'll understand a. why this is the most obvious thing anybody can think of (and many people did in fact) & b.Why it doesn't solve the blocksize issue.

If after understanding the issue and also his solution, feel free to jump on the patriotic appreciation band-wagon, but if you do so I'd really wanna know what you liked or what new did he present.

Its is a good proposal . I read the proposal and also https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3iblg7/bipdraft_dynamically_controlled_bitcoin_block/

Basically I find this almost like BIP 100 , which sounds better because it does not enforce directly halving/doubling and the rise could be more gradual.

Reddit thread and other responses are mostly positive . Whether the community accepts this or not is a different thing. There is criticsm for every BIP proposal.  But we should appericate that  it has passed through review mechanism(reviewed by gavin/others) and made it to bips github repository,

If you think you have a better idea, I invite you to submit a BIPS too. Note that some of them are slaughtered brutally on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ilyav/going_full_retard_bips_proposal_for_implementing/. If your BIPS is acceppted in github repo,  I would gladly sing patriotic praises for you too !


Gavin and other devs have openly criticised this and similar BIPS for giving all powers to miners.
Having a BIP number does not prove passing the review mechanism. You can write any sensible change and get a BIP number for reference.  BIP105 guy got a BIP number in the same way & guided Upal on how to get a BIP number. This BIP has not been incorporated in the client.

Since you read his BIP and understand it, can you help answer my doubts linked above; I'd gladly accept my mistakes.

If me having something better would be the only qualification for me to criticize something, then yes I have something but it is so weird that I am afraid to publish it (a proposal to reduce the blocksize to less than 1mb!) - PM me if you wanna discuss.
Apart from BIP 106 all of BIP 100, 101, 103, 105 are suggesting block size increase/adjustment in various ways. I dont see you going to threads discussing those BIPs and protesting so vigorously. What prompts you for your warfare against BIP 106 ? Because an Indian has done it without taking your permission ?

You are saying that everyone is saying BIP 106 is very bad. But, as I can see, BIP 106 (which was known as BIP 1xx before the formal assignment of BIP no.) is getting more vote than BIP 100 and BIP 101 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1164466.0 (though I am well aware that a public vote on BitcoinTalk is not very indicative about a critical decission).

I do also think that BIP 100 will win, not because it is the best, but because pool operators are backing it, as it gives final say to them. But, why are you so furuous about the fact that the proposal of an Indian is getting acclaimed in International platform ?