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Re: ion.cash "developer" a.k.a. Anonymint goes off the deep end
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TPTB_need_war
on 11/09/2015, 01:06:47 UTC
Ion is (from what most of us can tell or guess) a crypto/coding genius with little patience for the slower people asking bothersome questions. Not saying smoothie is one of the 'slower people' at all.  I think Ion's responses are a little defensive and impatient, but then again I do not see at all how this can be worthy of a negative trust rating. He said he would not divulge anything that gives competition any hints into his epiphanies.

Smoothie did just seem genuinely interested and kind of respectful and just got a little bit roughly treated. I'm sure you guys can work it out and get the negative trust removed for now until some real evidence for scamming/untrustworthy behaviour can be found.

Please re-review the chronological record. Your summary does not appear to be accurate.

[1] Also the timing of his Trust report is when I told him to his face that he was making Freudian slips with his use of the words "humble" and "immaturity" and that he was employing psychological warfare. I outed him and he didn't like it. So he proceeded to use every weapon in his toolchest to try to discredit me. The circumstances along with the evidence presented clearly show his motivation is revenge. And the reason is clear also. He was embarrassed because he started off initially attacking me over the definition of the 'delegated'. And then I pointed out that only a simpleton, non-skilled programmer assumes that delegation must be married to trust. Rather than eating humble pie, he turned Freudian and blamed me for not being humble and not putting the entire thread in the opening post.

Here he starts the conflation of 'delegated' and 'trusted':

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171109.msg12374689#msg12374689

So then I explained to him not to conflate the two, yet he repeats for the second time that he doesn't understand the definition of 'delegated':

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171109.msg12374976#msg12374976

After r0ach tried to explain it to him, then I explained it to him yet again and asked him kindly to not start a word war:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171109.msg12375049#msg12375049

Then for the third time he repeated his insistance on conflating the words 'delegated' and 'trusted' even after he has been told already 3X and by 2 experts not to do that:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171109.msg12375107#msg12375107

Then after r0ach tries to warn him the 4th time, he then defiantly states he is not trolling:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171109.msg12375170#msg12375170

But then he proceeds over to my thread to repeat the same nonsense some more as follows...

First, I had to explain it to him again for the 5th time and again caution him that I wasn't going to reveal the secrets of how I unconflate the delegation and the trust:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1174653.msg12375146#msg12375146

Yet for the 5th time he repeats his same insistence that delegation must be married to trust:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1174653.msg12375327#msg12375327

Around that point he started blaming me for his inability to read and saying I wasn't humble:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1174653.msg12377982#msg12377982

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1174653.msg12378045#msg12378045

I asked they move that detailed delegation issue discussion to another thread and it looked like maybe he was going to be reasonable, so I allowed his link to the new thread to remain in my thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175585.msg12375430#msg12375430

And I even pointed out to monsterer that it seemed to me like Smoothie was starting to genuinely think about a potential middle ground and I thought he had opened his mind and become more reasonable finally:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175585.msg12375644#msg12375644

But then he backslides and joins in with the VanillaCoin investors who want to attack me:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175585.msg12375676#msg12375676

And he starts attacking me ad hominem:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175585.msg12375708#msg12375708

Again I apologize profusely (2X) and beg one more time for mutual respect and level headedness (am I am not humble  Huh):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175585.msg12375715#msg12375715

Then smooth jumps on the bandwagon too with them all attacking me:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175585.msg12375982#msg12375982

Then Smoothie starts with his Freudian slips attacks where he is projecting his lack of humbleness and immaturity as accusations on me when in fact he is covering for big ego and butt hurt over being told 5 times not to conflate delegation and trust by both myself and r0ach:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175585.msg12377446#msg12377446