Yeah, well Bitfury has announced their 0,06 J/GH 16nm technology, so that will get interesting also.
Then there comes 21 with their 0,16 J/GH chip

So it will be getting interesting in here  
[/quote]


I saw that to but Bitfury wont sell to the public if they do it's gonna shot thu the roof price wise and 21 just what does that do be side offer a new way of accessing the blockchain does it actually mine at 1.15 th or better . if that's all it does i can build a PI for far less like some one said in a post or have a PI now that can do it. is that worth 400 bucks , no.  i see what you mean by 0,16 J/GH chip .I'll wait till Nov for that one.

I was going two buy 2 s7 at least but the price stopped me .it's more a disappoint meant to me then anything for the s7 price.
[/quote]

KnC and BitFury both are only going to sell to the public inferior products that they are basically bilking you on when looked at in respect to ROI.  The reason is simple.  Both have to satisfy investors and have massive mining facilities of their own they are operating.  IE  They are going to mine and sell the bitcoin themselves, cause a difficulty explosion and walk away with the cash.  Their silent unknown backers will demand it.  And since they are using THEIR money, they (KnC and BitFury) really probably don't have a choice in the matter either.  That's assuming they 'disagree' with their investor's positions.  Which I do not believe they do.  These companies are going to start tech hording like building ICBMs and nuclear warheads.  Then the cycle almost works like the world today.  The countries that have nuclear weapons get damn near free reign over the ones that do not.