The bump rule is in a thread entitled "Marketplace rules and guidelines" and the content of this thread is nothing more then a list of rules that reasonably would only apply to only marketplace threads.
I dont think my argument that it might be different than what you think is unreasonable.
Possible. I understood your point as: the rules there can only be reasonbly assumed to apply in the marketplace section, hence my argument that they can also be applied elsewhere should be considered unreasonable.
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The "no begging" rule is also somewhat of a "common sense" rule, while all of the marketplace specific rules are not.
The "no begging" rule is also somewhat of a "common sense" rule, while all of the marketplace specific rules are not.
IMHO not allowing a bump every 30 minutes is also common sense. What do you think would happen if people in Beginners and Help started to bump (be that with "updates" or not) threads every few minutes?
To make it clear:
Code:
OP: need help with x and y
1st reply: Try a
2nd reply (OP): x is fixed, but I still need help with y
1st reply: Try a
2nd reply (OP): x is fixed, but I still need help with y
Is perfectly fine IMHO.
On the other hand:
Code:
OP: need help with x and y
1st reply (OP): x is fixed, I still need help with y
1st reply (OP): x is fixed, I still need help with y
should have been an edit, even though it provides new information, evne though the post is constructive to the thread and there is no financial incentive (besides maybe OP is selling their signature, but lets just ignore that for the sake of keeping the argument as simple as possible).
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I don't think this is a slightly different interpretation of the same rule, I think the difference is substantial and clear. I don't think the difference in interpretation is because of a small nuance, I think it is a broad based difference in how a particular rule is interpreted.
I don't think this is a slightly different interpretation of the same rule, I think the difference is substantial and clear. I don't think the difference in interpretation is because of a small nuance, I think it is a broad based difference in how a particular rule is interpreted.
I disagree esp. if we consider the spirit of the rule.
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My argument is that it is only a marketplace rule and that the rule does not apply in places outside of marketplace.
My argument is that it is only a marketplace rule and that the rule does not apply in places outside of marketplace.
I know, I disagree for the given reasons. The problem it was meant to face in my opinion is also present in other sections. I would even say that excessive bumping is not actually a rule that is needed, but would fall under spam, even if the bump is actually an update and contains new information. I can also understand the OP feels it more visually appealing to post each article in a new post, but thats a different problem.
I don't think the spirit of the rule applies to other sections (see below). I think something that would be against the spirit of the bumping rule would be to have your alts ask questions in your own sales thread, or make otherwise useless posts in your sales threads, as these posts would effectively be a bump, however would technically not be classified as being an update nor a bump.
I would say that a "bump" post outside of the marketplace (that is not an update, as in it does not contain any additional information) should probably be deleted as it would be a "low value" post. I would also say that it is pretty rare that a thread gets addressed/replied to by a moderator after being "bumped" (as in "bump" and not a post that includes additional information) in meta.
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I would say that a "bump" post outside of the marketplace (that is not an update, as in it does not contain any additional information) should probably be deleted as it would be a "low value" post. I would also say that it is pretty rare that a thread gets addressed/replied to by a moderator after being "bumped" (as in "bump" and not a post that includes additional information) in meta.
How is it incorrect to apply a given rule across the board when the problem said rule was meant to face occures across the board? Heavily bumping a thread - as the OP does, same as the other person btw - is a problem in every section. It is an incentive to make several posts in order to have your thread on the first page. It simulates activity (number of posts/pages/recent updates) in order to lure people into a thread pushing other threads down.
In marketplace threads, you can adjust the price of what you are trading by fractions of a penny, or artificially adjusting the available inventory (or amounts you are willing to buy) and you could call it an "update" which would allow you to bump your thread to the top of a section, giving you a financial advance over others. In a non-marketplace thread, you are not able to manipulate an update anywhere near as easily, and there is not the financial advantage. -snip-
Yes, its especially important that marketplace threads are not overly bumped, but that does not reduce the importance in other sections.
PS: thanks for researching the quotes btw 
I think you are making an incorrect use of that smiley. I usually use that smiley when I am laughing at someone. I would not laugh at you. I just smiled more
instead of less 
Might be because I never read the alt text for it and just went with the visual impression of the ASCII version. Just assume it posted this instead -> 