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Board Speculation (Altcoins)
Re: [AEON] Aeon Speculation
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TPTB_need_war
on 29/10/2015, 00:26:16 UTC
The other day, (perhaps it was just coincidence) I mentioned a certain tiny computing stock and it's price went up 20% the next day.

Seems I inadvertently did that to the BBR price just recently (others informed me, I wasn't even watching the price and I still haven't looked at the price). And no I did not buy any BBR. I am not at all into making money by front running unconfirmed rumors to add a certain feature to another coin. If ever I worked on another coin and wanted to buy that coin, I would buy after any publicity. I am not even interested in speculation, so I don't want insider trading culpability for something that isn't even my cup of tea. I want to write software and profit on its sale and long-term value creation. I have no desire in trading. I am a geek at heart.

So it feels like the best way forward is simply to be public about my holdings.  I know that certain people like the Winklevoss twins and Barry Silbert are outspoken proponents of the bitcoin price, but also are relatively public about how much they own.  (any rational person should expect someone who owns half a percent of an asset to be optimistic about its future).

But I presume at least the former probably have purchased protection from the SEC at the highest levels, and also my analysis is that Bitcoin is not an investment security because at this point there is no particular promoter or developer or any one in control of either the protocol or the investor's expectations. It has already graduated to a decentralized economic (not just protocol) phenomenon. Whereas, even Monero looks precariously close to skirting the risks of being an investment security. I don't know for sure, but I would be careful on these "pink sheet altcoins".

When (not if) the day comes that the SEC starts considering how to apply Internet Fraud laws to crypto-assets, I believe this will allow me to escape any of the nastiness that plagued the first people to "pump" stocks online.  (there are many instances in the 1990s of the SEC cracking down on people who heavily touted stocks online they owned).

I suggest you review the thread I did on investment securities. I don't think UNREGISTERED disclosure protects you from creating an implicit investment contract with prospective investors for an UNREGISTERED investment security.

You are just being informed now, so perhaps that is a defense if you alter patterns now if you feel you need to based on new information. IANAL so I don't know really.

That being said, everyone should remember that Hal Finney was harassed into his dying days by assholes trying to extort bitcoins from him.  This was a direct result of him being an early and public personality involved in the space.  Personally, I am surrounded by a variety of means to defend myself, won't negotiate with any bad actors regardless of the circumstances (this only incentivizes further bad actors),  and believe in defending my 'kingdom' however is needed.

I am not aware of that. Can you point me to some details or elaborate? What sort of harrassment? This concerns me significantly and was one of the reasons I originally wanted to be anonymous, but I had put my real name on my post when I first joined this forum in 2013, so there was no way to get my anonymity back. And I doubt any way for me to create a coin without someone realizing it is the same writing style as Anonymint. Probably I'll never have to worry about that, as the odds of creating another Bitcoin are not so great (and if you do, you likely have more resources than Hal had to protect yourself).

P.S. I wasn't trying to killjoy the thread. Please don't everyone go silent, I feel guilty.