I did not decline the bet. We'll see if Tom has enough confidence in his hardware to make the bet. My guess is he'll chicken out and take the excuse of "You won't stay out of my thread" to back out of the bet. But maybe he'll surprise me.
You are wrong! The bet was not about bASIC power requirement, ONLY about BFL's claim. Don't mix things...
I agree. Take the damn bet for 1000BTC about whether BFL can deliver their claimed efficiency. If you're so confident, then it should be easy money for you! However, you're antagonizing him with all this nit-picking of dictionary terminology, which is just going to screw you (by not getting the 1000BTC bet).
He's calling you out on your claims. Take the bet, and prove him wrong. Then, if you want to nitpick about his terms and "competitiveness", make a separate bet in another thread.
^This. So much this.
Tom doesn't want to provide a specific power figure on the possibility that it'll be wrong. Surely after claiming that the FPGA single would draw 20W, BFL understands that simulation figures have a habit of getting revised one way or another?
We know the thing can be powered by Molex, so surely that gives you some idea.
Besides, you're really going to turn down what should be an easy twelve grand because Tom won't pull some wattage numbers out of thin air?
I'm not asking him to give wattage numbers or a power estimate, I am asking him to define competitive. What the hell, are you completely incapable of reading?
Again, here's the bet I'm willing to make:
1. BFL products will ship with a power usage at 1.1w per GH or less.
2. Tom defines "competitive."
3. Tom does not require that I stay out of his thread as a condition of the bet.
That's it. Tom has already declined because he knows if he defines competitive one of two things happen:
A) People realize his definition of "competitive" and their definition are grossly different.
B) He has to admit that his power usage is not going to be competitive.
That's really the only reason he is declining the bet at this point, because it forces him into a position of admitting something he doesn't want to admit yet, because his precious pre-orders will dry up like a bone in a desert.