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Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin?
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TPTB_need_war
on 19/12/2015, 20:32:48 UTC
toknormal I believe I remember past interactions with you and that you were very rational and exhibited technical acumen, if I am not confusing you with another similar username.

I assume you've read my numerous criticisms of where Bitcoin is likely headed.

So it seems your point is that Dash is attempting an approach that is a valid alternative. Sorry every time I have analyzed any technical aspect of Dash, it has always been invalid. It started with me explaining to Evan that CoinJoin can be jammed (which is something I had argued with Gmaxwell about when he invented it) and so then Evan invented masternodes. And again I thought it was a stupid and highly flawed idea, but rather than rain on his parade, I offered my help on what were the most pressing attack concerns and he proceeded to design what he claimed were defenses. I continued to think it was an incredibly flawed design, but I shut up (and I didn't want to lose time combing over the fine details of his design to prove it and enumerate flaws). And then the speculators jumped on Dash like wildfire.

As for the "mining the investors", it is obvious that he all Dash can and is designed to do. It has no real usership. Its technology is fundamentally flawed. It is marketed ONLY to speculators and buyers of crypto currency. I don't classify those as users. I classify them as ignorant fools easy for a snake oil salesman to harvest.

The investors are caught up in gold rush fever and have no fucking clue how ignorant their investments are.

Your entire altcoin industry is a target for SEC crackdown and it is coming eventually. The government is letting you lay the trap for yourselves, which will come down the line.

I will be marketing and entering an entirely orthogonal industry to one which this forum represents. I will either invent an entirely new market for crypto currency, or I will fail, give up and move on.

Yeah you are correct. Go have your speculation orgy. I either be busy kicking your ass in the real market or moved on because the real market doesn't exist.

Obviously everyone has some vested interest. So as I wrote in prior post, I am admitting I am talking too much and not kicking ass enough. Probably because of this fucking illness and also too many decades on the computer has caused me to easily fall into a sort of non-productivity spiral (a form of addiction of trying to do too much at once and thus doing nearly nothing proficiently).

And on that note, I am going to stop discussion. Because in order to be reasonably healthy, I need to limit my computer hours to 8 or so per day maximum. I need all those hours to be on programming.

The upthread discussion was very astute and helpful. I am not discounting the value of discussion. I just know the times in my life where I created popular user software, I wasn't talking to anyone. I was too busy doing it.



TaoOfSaatoshi your post appeared while I was submitting mine. I believe Evan's goal is to milk you of as much of your capital as possible. I saw it in his eyes when the guy confronted him on video wherein he announced his plans for Evolution in Europe. His eyelids were fluttering which is a sign of lying and he became flustered (and overcome with rage) and unable to answer the allegations. I personally can't prove that he is lying (because I haven't expended my scarce time to go compiling and studying all the evidence), but others have done a good job already of presenting evidence about some of the shenanigans. My confliction is I am an anarchist. Thus I don't think it is my or anyone's role to play the role of the policeman for those who haven't hired me to do that job. I mean it is not my place, responsibility, nor right to condemn Dash with words and commentary. Much better if I condemn in the market by kicking its ass off the planet by rendering it inferior and millions of users behind in in adoption. Which I damn well will attempt to do. I can't promise success in my attempt.

Yeah this is the crypto jungle. A wild west of corruption and vested interests. I am leaving this jungle, because it isn't the real market of users. And it also isn't a safe place to play. The jail time comes later. Mark my word.



In summary, I cringe as much as Smoothie or smooth do at the stupid design of Dash, the manipulations and shenanigans (some of it only conjectured but with good logic and some data), and the gullible speculators who fall into love with this (technically speaking and also marketing to investors and not users) garbage. But I am conflicted, because I don't think competition by verbal attack helps produce success for the market. Competition by kicking ass in the market does.

Also originally I took Evan at his word and he seemed amiable. But over time, I come to form an opinion of him as more likely being a conniving con artist. And for example publishing lies about the math and capabilities of InstantX is another strong evidence. And we have so many examples of speculators writing that Dash has instant transactions, because they were lied to. This evidence can be handed to an SEC investigation in the future (not by me as I am anarchist but someone can).

Fact is that Dash's rise in market cap was likely a mirage and a manipulation of insiders buying from themselves. I used to convince myself that I shouldn't frown too much on Dash, because the large market cap meant the speculators had voted for their preference. But then smooth explained to me that these altcoin market caps are all manipulated mirages. Then I transitioned from a gullible fool and I started to ponder the more likely truth about the altcoin arena being one big "mining the speculators" paradigm.

Any newbies who fall into this trap, I guess deserve the cost of education. But remember that is what the SEC is there for to protect the unsophisticated investor from unregistered illegal investment securities (which I think Dash per the Supreme Court Howey test but IANAL so every reader should defer to their own attorney on legal issues). Now I see Erik Voorhees who settled with the SEC by repaying every investment he received from speculators (otherwise he would have faced jail time), is now promoting Dash. Strange bed fellows. Makes me ponder whether Erik has connections at the SEC and who knows who and what is being paid under the table in this corrupt world.

Let's contrast Dash and Evan with jl777. James is always working and coding trying to complete projects for the SuperNet. He is working now on making the SuperNet more accessible to users via browser GUIs. Do you see him prostituting himself in grand promotions of garbage? No. He is humble. I've grown to respect him more over time. Even I need to emulate him more, because he doesn't waste a lot of time in forum discussions. I can't vouch for the quality of his code or designs yet (and frankly his earlier white papers were so discombobulated that I thought he was not capable, but I have since learned his a very capable C coder) because I don't have yet sufficient exposure to detailed interoption with his code. But afaik at least he doesn't seem to be lying about what he is capable of doing and is doing. Evan presents a very amiable image up front, and he appears to be very crafty with his obfuscations such as the math lies in the InstantX white paper. An honest mistake? Just like the premine? And the change in the money supply ex post facto? So many honest mistakes?



I am frustrated because I should be solving the entire problem with my actions. But Father Time is undefeated and he caught up with me. But perhaps I still can. I need to organize better and focus more.

So thus adios to these time wasting discussions... salamat inyong lahat.