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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action
by
thunderjet
on 17/01/2016, 19:34:27 UTC
I would accept 10% withdrawals-fee and a daily Limit of $50, but for all users and no monthly limit.

Nobody would trade on exchange with 10 % withdrawal fee.

What Cryptsy can do?

1) gives full disclosure of their assets,

2) open withdrawals for unaffected coins,

3) reduce operational costs by shutting down of unprofitable LTC and XRP/altcoins market and leave 50 coins with best BTC volume in the last 6 months,

4) back trade fees as more profitable option,

4) BV find investors or put mortgage on his business and personal properties or sell unnecessary assets(or combine) to take loan enough to cover 50% debt ~ 5000 BTCs,

5) other 50% will be paid from 0,5% withdrawal fee which would be auto-deduct from debt to every user during theirs withdrawal and

6) from 33% of exchange income(trade fees),starting 3 months after reopening,so exchange will have enough time to recover.
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Sounds great on paper, but of the volume that was there for the past year, how many of those users do you think would come back? That kinda changes everything.
yes who will continue to trade with this bastards? and stop begging for your money. it is yours and some big bird thinks he can help himself to it then there is only 1 way to deal with this.

Nobody begging for money.I personally lost very little,but what is your solution - bankruptcy ? If Cryptsy bankrupt nobody will get anything - 0000000000000000000 , BV maybe or maybe not will go to jail for 2-3 years and that is all.If he did it as you suggest,after prison he will be very rich man with 000000000000000 responsibility.

Why is wrong that users be paid 50% immediately ? Maybe you prefer to get 0% ? That is bullshit man.

Give better suggestion than yelling and cursing,because these things cant help people who lost money.We all cursed and yelled when it happened,but after that we have to see what to do next. Bankruptcy is way too easy solution for the mess BV created.
are you not the guy that kept telling us that the cryptsy cold wallet was intact.?
and what fucking bankrupt claim should we really entertain ? the man and his crew are insane . you are an adult you should know when the line is crossed. i don't have to draw your a picture like a child?

You obviously keep talking bullshit. What is your suggestion?  To everbody take 100% loss and let him get away so easy?? You are talking as his lawyer,because,it will be the best solution for him ,but not for users.

Yes, one girl from Russia and me found that wallet in wallet explorer and it looks like ordinary cold wallet of some exchange - long time dormant,directly connected with main wallet. I was also first who gave to the others informations about removing huge portions of BTCs from old hot wallet to Bitfinex,BTCC,AlphaBay market and Local Bitcoins, in time when all other users got in total no more than 5-6 BTCs daily.I have never seen that thief or thieves,left stolen money for so long in dormant status.In all other cases - BTER, Bitstamp,Poloniex ,hackers very soon after theft put BTCs in some of bitcoins mixers,but not in this case.If it is inner job,than bankruptcy is easiest way for BV to escape from any responsibility.


you need to read before you reply to peoples posts. like wtf are you talking about?when and were above did i make the suggestions you are claiming i did , are you mad ? and how nice of you to dodge the question i asked you so i will ask again in caps. ARE YOU NOT THE SAME PERSON THAT KEP REASURING US THAT CRYPTSY COLD WALLET WAS INTACT?..

I SUGGEST YOU DEMAND YOUR MONEY FROM THIS BASTARD AND NOT BEG FOR IT LIKE A LIL BITCH. SO NOBODY IN THE STATES IS EVEN TRACKING THIS MOFOS DOWN?  FUCK BANKRUPTSY DEMAND YOUR MONEY FROM THE THEIVE AND BE WILLING TO TAKE ACTIONS FOR YOUR MONEY FUCK THE BULLSHIT

For the first and last time - I DID NOT REASSURE ANYBODY THAT IS SAFE TO STAY MONEY AT CRYPTSY - ONLY I WAS DOING IS TO HELP PEOPLE GIVING INFOS IN THE CHAT HOW MUCH BTC CRYPTSY SENT EVERY DAY TO THE USERS,WHAT WERE BIGGEST TRANSFERS(THROUGH MONITORING CRYPTSY WALLETS ON WALLET EXPLORER) AND DID BTC ARE MOVING FROM THAT EVERYBODY BELIEVED WAS CRYPTSY COLD WALLET.I CANT BELIEVE THAT TALKING OPENLY HOW LITTLE CRYPTSY SENT BTC EVERY DAY WAS HELPFUL FOR CRYPTSY IN ANY WAY.

I WAS FIRST WHO SPOKE ABOUT SUSPICIOUS TRANSFER FROM CRYPTSY OLD WALLET TO BITFINEX,BTCC,ALPHABAY AND LOCAL BITCOINS AND GOT WEEK BAN FROM JSHOCK FOR THAT.I WAS FIRST THAT GIVES INFO ABOUT BTC THEFT HAPPENED 5 HOURS EARLIER BEFORE MAIN HACK - WHEN THEIF TOOK 500 BTC IN 5X100 TRANSFERS.YOU ALL USED MINE FINDINGS AND DATA AND MANY PEOPLE POST IT HERE.I FOUND CRYPTSY DOGE COLD WALLET AND POST SUSPICIOS TRANSFERS FROM IT:

I monitored Cryptsy Bitcoin and other alts wallets through blockchain analysis and it is pretty hard to me to believe that theft is caused by trojan virus infiltration to cold wallet.

First of all Cryptsy cold wallet then was not cold at all,otherwise how virus jumped to it from server?

Blockchain analysis gave me information that theft began not at 13:37:26 as posted on Cryptsy blog,but 5 hours earlier,through attack on hot wallet.Incident occured at 08:27:48,when someone took 500 BTC through 5 txs of 100 BTC each - https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/Cryptsy.com-old?page=1202
These txs were:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/e68f52a38f58e71b951a08650e20aea3f62f7331a3f548e99181f6dbf1cc1d51
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/48721871b11f716688fcf80a91a5c7586a1dddee83d90b84b564f3f29e11504c
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/790aa7ec2678552c88cf95110c0df4bcc16a72b8f7e6f331292b977cc6e481df
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/e8bb46bc6ea5f4580dd2b73f5d6a116e9023c84eb7c0fd4f34bcef3aca606fad
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/f3998a7e2e8b451106327d2c6e7f73ba58c2fd54b4bb3595b18a2d76e7d15f44

Cryptsy employees did not notice that their hot wallet was robbed for 5 hours,when big hack happenned to cold wallet.

One thing is interesting - these 500 BTC did not move at all after it - just like 1000s after big hack.In all BTC hacks till now,hackers never wait more than few hours to put stolen BTC in to the mixer.Except in this case.


Also I found Cryptsy DASH and DOGE main wallets.Cryptsy said that they did not hacked,but what happenned with coins in them.In DASH wallet was 456K DASH.Wallet was formed on 27.July.2014:

https://bitinfocharts.com/darkcoin/tx/ba798890d98936115001f69333956b558a4856c162516cb3ab46a6455de7a1eb

It is not hacked and from one of his big direct branches came 8433 DASH sent from Cryptsy on 5th.Oct.2015 to big DASH owner known as Otoh(http://i.imgur.com/Cb2ygx7.png):

https://bchain.info/DASH/tx/964716df9d475449a7abae56a57536d46bf466a1407a81e7d5ff5457d87827d9, pay attention on address Xqi7sWthYKFPCK3KHcKq8BqY9vMcWy4r3t  probably biggest direct branch from main DASH wallet


DOGE main wallet was also formed on the 27.July.2014 - https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/address/DN27P1saQQ1fYesKP1LHT5MdSXBpgqka85  - there was 9.5 billions of DOGE in it

On 5th.Aug 2014,DOGE was removed from that wallet in multiple 1 billion txs(like BTC in the hack,but as we know DOGE wasnt hacked) :

https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/ed788feeef777fedc20fa761e4ae40aa0be9da05a3fd312d5347c5bddad50941
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/b84e8b04cdd002d029f630bf4aa12814a2a9c33e0b2d58686cea7544d91b8180
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/b36b8e35d6dd4a738d5dc1059b9e9d9f1f7a7be063a77556d607778c77cef34e
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/ea1da0bea33f2f7a34ddaeb922b822c2faf43659ac2f4de15386bfc17f4c27c1
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/5c4a79c212d1ab5f8da3f4939ebf7ea0d8244fc3b9ddfd3db1b3de018757b44c
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/27250d554170ab262924ab812295b11610158b52b17122b37b7877b99fc50db6
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/1b2ef19cd8d61cbc9706acfed594f2894f3653a52fa37e418fc8d4087ca4ad97
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/6946e22733fd1565416fae48b33442a924ee1efaa39d204947f44ceba7c832c0
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/412433cad0ec9348984f33ab3088850acaf439d69262082688170738deff016a
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/71dd761230463b85ca5c9d780ff30feda415ce34c3a81b03e1568e5e31be9dfa


Plus this withdrawal taken place after Cryptsy lockdown wallets - https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/85a5d1dfb7fd4589cf43321f65a9ed300e994b4e156653063a1c5912f908c18b


So there are a lot of mystery what is really happened with Cryptsy wallets




I never beg anybody in mine life and I certainly will not beg Cryptsy too.You said demand your money from thieves and took action - what action?People took "action" on Gox and Mintpal, and get 00000 money.

Mine suggestion was that users do not allow Cryptsy to bankrupt and get nothing from it like in previous cases,but to put pressure on BV to continue work and pay 50% of debt immediately by mortgaging or selling his business and private assets and letting people to withdraw unaffecting coins right now.I cant see any other viable option for people get some money.If you can give something better option,post it I will support you.