Alex,
Ευχαριστώ που κράτησες τη συζήτηση σε σχετικά πολιτισμένο επίπεδο, αν και διαφωνώ με πολλά από αυτά που λες, και στο θέμα συμφωνώ με τον antanst.
Μερικές επισημάνσεις στα σχόλιά σου.
Ωραία που κάνουμε quote τον Satoshi, αναφέρεις ότι ο Satoshi πίστευε ότι το Bitcoin to 2010 δεν ήταν έτοιμο για microtransactions
(To BTC 4/8/2010 ήταν $0.07 άρα το 0.01 που αναφέρει ο Satoshi ήταν (OMG) $0.0007 και
τότε του φάνηκε ότι δεν έκανε για microtransactions...
αλλά δεν πήγες ένα πόστ παρακάτω
https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=287.40%3Bwap2 να δούμε τι λέει λοιπόν:
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satoshi:
Forgot to add the good part about micropayments. While I don't think Bitcoin is practical for smaller micropayments right now, it will eventually be as storage and bandwidth costs continue to fall. If Bitcoin catches on on a big scale, it may already be the case by that time. Another way they can become more practical is if I implement client-only mode and the number of network nodes consolidates into a smaller number of professional server farms. Whatever size micropayments you need will eventually be practical. I think in 5 or 10 years, the bandwidth and storage will seem trivial.
I am not claiming that the network is impervious to DoS attack. I think most P2P networks can be DoS attacked in numerous ways. (On a side note, I read that the record companies would like to DoS all the file sharing networks, but they don't want to break the anti-hacking/anti-abuse laws.)
If we started getting DoS attacked with loads of wasted transactions back and forth, you would need to start paying a 0.01 minimum transaction fee. 0.1.5 actually had an option to set that, but I took it out to reduce confusion. Free transactions are nice and we can keep it that way if people don't abuse them.
That brings up the question: if there was a minimum 0.01 fee for each transaction, should we automatically add the fee if it's just the minimum 0.01? It would be awfully annoying to ask each time. If you have 50.00 and send 10.00, the recipient would get 10.00 and you'd have 39.99 left. I think it should just add it automatically. It's trivial compared to the fees many other types of services add automatically.
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Επίσης το quote στην υπογραφή σου, πιθανότατα δεν είναι ο Satoshi, αν και σε αυτό το κείμενο λέει ότι δεν θέλει να είναι χειραγωγείται το Bitcoin από "χαρισματικούς ηγέτες" οπότε :
ή σταματάμε τα quotes του και αρχίζουμε να συζητάμε τα θέματα εκ του μηδενός
ή αφηνόμαστε στην άπειρη σοφία του και το κάνουμε Ιερά Σύνοδο.
Και μιας και αρχίσαμε τις ιστορικές αναδρομές πάμε και εδώ να θυμηθούμε πως ξεκίνησε ένα άλλο κεφάλαιο της αντιπαράθεσης για το block size :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208200.0 να δούμε τι λέγαν τότε οι άλλοι ηγέτες μας
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All that said, I do cringe just a little at the over-simplification of the video... and worry a bit that in a couple years it will be clear that 2mb or 10mb or whatever is totally safe relative to all concerns perhaps even mobile devices with tor could be full nodes with 10mb blocks on the internet of 2023, and by then there may be plenty of transaction volume to keep fees high enough to support security and maybe some people will be dogmatically promoting a 1MB limit because they walked away from the video thinking that 1MB is a magic number rather than today's conservative trade-off. 200,000 - 500,000 transactions per day is a good start, indeed, but I'd certainly like to see Bitcoin doing more in the future. ... But I suppose the community can work on educating people about that them with concrete demonstrations. Thing like bg002h's suggestion of a maxed out testnet would be interesting in establishing exactly what the scaling limits of current technology are.
Much love.
(εδιτ: σαμ σπελλινγκ)