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Board Marketplace (Altcoins)
Re: IOTA Crowdsale
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rtrtcrypto
on 16/02/2016, 20:20:35 UTC
"Welcome to the real world. IOTA is real world tech, not crypto-speculation-pump-and-dump"

Great. Where is the software I paid for then? I paid for a product, ok... I'm waiting to take possession of it.

"But the point stands: there are some people who bought IOTA tokens for speculation: we do not owe them anything beyond the software and everyone needs to understand this."

I'm curious, you are not one of the technical developers, correct? You don't work on the math, nor the protocol itself, nor are you a cryptographer, etc. Is this correct? Because if you guys (IOTA TEAM) are just responsible for developing software (technical work) and you are not one of the developers or programmers or cryptographers. Then why exactly are you being paid? As you said yourself, the responsibility of the team is just to develop the technology and nothing else.  

There is also another contradiction, you say that you don't care about speculators and the market doesn't matter and that only the technology is important. Then what drama is caused by any speculator? If the market around your product is not important to you - as you say, the software sale is OVER and you are just responsible for the tech. So, what exactly is the drama that is to be avoided?

Lastly, I'm not interested in having you take me seriously or not seriously - you miss the point again. People are (rightfully) questioning why they should take YOU seriously.

I bought "software" that I intend to use... having said that, my use of the network will be dependent on its value which is dependent on its use - your actions and words make me believe that you are hurting the future use of MY software which I paid to have and use. As such, I take issue with you and your tone in so far as it hurts my future use of what I paid to have.





I'm always amazed by posts like this from you - I can't even comprehend what exactly you think you are doing when you say things like this.

I wonder if you know just how BAD you are at what you do, the smugness and arrogance from these posts are so ridiculous, if you were a CEO or leader of a large company you would be replaced in 2 seconds for making statements like this. You are the face of the project and you are supposed to present the project in the best light possible and THIS is what you come up with?

Why not just tell everyone to go fuck themselves and be done with it? Think about the tone you bring to these threads. Honestly, it would be best if you guys spent some of the 1000+ BTC on hiring someone to better represent the team to the "non-investors". Then you can concentrate on whatever it is that you are doing which has a positive impact for IOTA. Maybe when you deliver a working and stable product you can begin to dream about talking to other people in this tone - "Hey, you guys got what you paid for - the software works". Right now? Right now YOU have 1000+ BTC and there is an expectation that you will deliver something useful and stable. To hear "hey, we don't owe anyone anything, we are just as responsible as anyone else here"... this is crap, because YOU GOT PAID. Not me.

Most of the time I wish you just bit your tongue, because I'm sure you are hurting the project with this tone you take every 2 pages. Whatever you are doing behind the scenes, I hope it's spectacular - because otherwise I would hope to see you replaced. Honestly, you can't possibly think your words and behavior in these threads helps the project along. I know for a fact that many people invested in this project (YES, INVESTED, I don't care that you want to side step issues with the SEC here - you can call this software and still see your customers and people who are investing in your company and future) because of their belief in CFB.

To be perfectly blunt, as you like to be, everytime I worry about this project it is because of the tone and attitude you have. You speak to a VC or within a serious funding round with the tone you bring and you will be destroyed. You need to re-think exactly what you say and how you say it.

If you can't handle this, find someone who CAN. 


Ugh another one.

First and foremost:
AGAIN look through the threads we have made to see how many times we have specifically told people to stop polluting the thread with speculation, which we said from day 1 we would strike down on. And again FROM REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE, not theory we *know* how fast these things get out of hand, so being brutally blunt and repetitive is the only solution to avoid false speculation, accusations and drama that we have experienced 100 times before from trolls. This is not a game and hypothetics for us, this is from experience. We run a legally registered company, sorry but this is the role of a CEO, he has to deliver the blunt truth without sugar coating it, otherwise we'd run the risk of drama. This time we decided to avoid all that by being 100% crystal clear. IOTA is software, if you purchased it you agreed to our terms and risks. That is it. That is the entirety of our agreement with customers. So please take your "I INVESTED, you guys are trying to side step SEC!" bullshit elsewhere. IOTA is a software data layer that enables data transfer and transactive settlements, it is not by itself equity or assets. You are the exact person my post is aimed at.


Secondly
if you want me to take you seriously you need to stop misquoting me. I have never said "You guys bought software therefore we don't owe you anything". We owe the software, which I also mentioned in that very post you chose to falliciously lash out at. But the point stands: there are some people who bought IOTA tokens for speculation: we do not owe them anything beyond the software and everyone needs to understand this.

What guys like you seem to fail to realize is that cryptographical token software is not some magic. I could EASILY have been a hypocritical idiot and hyped and promised any and everything in order to drive up the software sale, but did I? No, instead we are brutally honest, because we know this space better than anyone and know just how disingenuous some people are, which lead to a ton of wasted time and resources.

If people like yourself would stop making up false bullshit like "OH I INVESTED IN YOU, SO YOU OWE IT TO ME TO MAKE ME RICH!" I could take another tone. And trust me I got more experience talking with big companies and VCs than you do, they are quite aware of the fact that in business it's all about being blunt. This is not a marketing gig, the software sale is over, now it's all about releasing the software and (by our own volition) grow the ecosystem, but it's not something we legally OWE you, you are not our investor in IOTA, we got no investors in IOTA. Welcome to the real world. IOTA is real world tech, not crypto-speculation-pump-and-dump