Quote from: TPTB_need_war on February 18, 2016, 09:34:05 AM

Neither! Gold will be banned everywhere and Bitcoin is irreparably broken.

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on February 18, 2016, 09:06:43 AM

Until now, all crypto coins have been marketed to investors.

Quote from: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

The steady addition of a constant of amount of new coins is analogous to gold miners expending resources to add gold to circulation.

Once a predetermined number of coins have entered circulation, the incentive can transition entirely to transaction fees and be completely inflation free.

Bitcoin the better gold.

Word.

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on February 18, 2016, 10:07:47 AM

Quote from: sandiman on February 18, 2016, 09:13:56 AM

This redudancy + partionning paradox is extremely hard to understand for a newbie who's native language is not even english...

It would be really appreciated if someone could rephrase this paradox summing up with easy terms what is the issue and its consequencies Grin

I am years ago of your computer science knowledge and I may stay years ago of your knowledge in this field for the rest of my life since it isn't my study field.

Thank you in advance. Grin

Hopefully r0ach and others can offer their laymen's summaries.

What you need to know is that Ethereum as it is currently designed can't scale just as Bitcoin can't scale, but the level of scaling which the current Ethereum can do is much less than even Bitcoin's current limitation because verification/validation of Serpent scripts takes more resources than verification/validation of ECDSA signatures.

For both Bitcoin and Ethereum, this is not just an issue of block size limitation. The issue is that in order to scale, the mining becomes more centralized. I think you will should note that Bitcoin and all other major coins are entirely centralized already and on the precipice of failure (all of them! study my links!).

Thus Ethereum proposed Casper which is a design that attempts to use sharding (a.k.a. partitions) to improve scaling decentralized. But I explained in this thread, that can't work. To reduce electricity consumption, Ethereum also proposed PoS-like consensus-by-betting with forfeitable deposits. PoS has known failure modes that violate Nash equilibrium.

So the point of all this is that Ethereum and all the rest of the crypto coins have not yet solved the fundamental issue of decentralized consensus.

If you want to read a theoretical discussion of why, I did that too.

Okay that is enough from me. Adios.

Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/markets-by-sector/precious-metals/gold/will-they-confiscate-gold-again/

I do not believe they will confiscate gold for there is no intention to return to a gold standard as Roosevelt did in 1934. He confiscated the gold FIRST to profit from the dollar devaluation in 1934. He also wanted to end people hoarding cash outside the banks, which is the same problem we have today which they are addressing with moving electronic and cancelling high denominations. However, what they will do is confiscate gold if you tried to leave the country with it or you travel with it domestically using the Civil Asset Forfeiture laws. That would be the same as if it were cash.

It does appear that old pre-1965 silver coins may be best for small commerce. However, keep in mind that the government may declare any transaction in gold or silver to be illegal and they then get to confiscate all assets involved. They can easily just pass a law and declare anyone dealing in some off-currency exchange to be money laundering to hide from taxes. These people will do whatever they can to retain power.

Also keep in mind that as they become more and more desperate for money, all legal forms used today will vanish at the order of any judge.

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So will they confiscate gold? I doubt in a wholesale basis, however, they have shut this down as far as gold being portable. You cannot jump on a plane with a suitcase full of gold as you once could decades ago. So just be prepared, they can make it illegal to conduct a transaction in it.

Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/markets-by-sector/precious-metals/gold/canada-selling-bulk-of-its-gold-reserves/

Governments everywhere are going broke. Despite what people think, gold may yet make new record lows under $1,000 in the months ahead. Canada has sold off the majority of its gold reserve into this rally, leaving less than a ton remaining. There is NO intention of returning to a gold standard. They are moving fully electronic and intend to eliminate cash everywhere. In so doing, the official view behind the curtain is that they no longer need gold.

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I have been warning that gold is not really the cornerstone of government nor is it interesting to big money in the context of physical possession. It is a hedge against government for the average person. Governments are turning away from gold, and as they cross that line and head into the sovereign debt crisis, they will sell everything and hunt every person to grab as much wealth as they can to keep their jobs. That is what we are dealing with.

I totally disagree due to the gold has always been a nr.1 currency's globally, I do not see this happen with the bitcoin because the bitcoin still has to proof itself, also its digital so it can be destroyed and it has a lot of downsides because its digital if you ask me.
The second reason is that gold is already used for I do not know for how long, the bitcoin is new, think about what I'm gonna say now, the bitcoin is a digital currency and it can collapse as you can see its very unstable and also got a bad name if all currency's will collapse which currency will get used again ? Gold of course because that is the primary currency on the world, gold is a lot bigger and also very stable and it can never get destroyed if you ask me.