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Re: What if classic coup is just a large-scale manipulation by altcoin pumper gang?
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gmaxwell
on 20/03/2016, 23:26:46 UTC
seems no one is denying blockstreams has ties to banks
Huh? I do. What ties to what banks are you talking about?

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seems no one denies that blockstream prefer people not to use real secure bitcoin ledger transactions and instead want people using less distributed less secure LN hubs.
I do. What is a "LN hub"?  If you're talking about lightning, every lightning transaction is a "real bitcoin ledger transaction" just most are hopefully superseded before they hit the blockchain, without degrading their security. If this seems impossible to you should checkout cut-through transactions as a parallel technology that might open your eyes.

In my vision of lightning there isn't much in the way of hubs, but a mesh of users. If I wanted to build a hub I'd build a chaumanian cash bank. Payment channels were originally proposed by Bitcoin's creator, and the Bitcoin transaction format has specific affordances to support them (e.g. sequence numbers).