those people, were once valued members of this community
"Valued" is subjective in this case. Besides, their past is irrelevant.I can't help but point out we are going against the "classical road map"
Doesn't matter. Satoshi's words should not be quoted into arguments of today. Everything was very different back then and he had very limited data to go from.I Imagine a future where individual states, universities, governments, corporations, banks are the ones running bitcoin nodes.
China and USA may not agree on a lot of thing, but they will be made to participate in nakamoto consensus!!
I simply do not care if there individual citizens can't run a full node without a 10,000$ investment.
Again, either very foolish or stupid. Bitcoin was always about individual sovereignty and now you're talking about turning it into a government/corporation coin. Nice viewpoint. China and USA may not agree on a lot of thing, but they will be made to participate in nakamoto consensus!!
I simply do not care if there individual citizens can't run a full node without a 10,000$ investment.
does peter todd speak for them?
does blockstream?
No and no.does blockstream?
i guess segwit is such a compromises, but if thats are far as they are willing to go, and attempt to force me off chain in the name of "raspberry pie standards" i will fork off.
You aren't being forced to go off-chain. People don't know the definition of the word 'forced' apparently. The only way in which that word could apply is if there are no way of transacting on the main chain (which isn't the case). Additionally, there's nothing wrong with using a secondary layer. There would be no internet of today if it weren't for the 7 layers that it uses.