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Re: Can you feel the Bern?
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chanchel
on 29/03/2016, 16:35:49 UTC
Quote from: Moloch on March 29, 2016, 04:07:18 AM
Quote from: chanchel on March 28, 2016, 08:25:47 PM
Quote from: Moloch on March 27, 2016, 10:45:42 PM
Quote from: Spendulus on March 27, 2016, 10:03:59 PM
Free Dope would pick up some votes.

Contrary to establishment propaganda, Bernie isn't giving out anything for free... Although, he will likely legalize weed

He's only ~200 delegates behind Hillary... California alone is worth 475... say hello to President Bernie!

stop saying he hasn't offered anything for free.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/

Here's your free stuff.  When will you wackos figure out that nothing is free.  Free tuition!!! Yay, right?!?!?!  More social security, yay, right?!?!?!?  Extended healthcare coverage, yay, right?!?!?!
Anyway, you get the point.  Bernie will tax the crap out of everyone, and in so doing will kill job after job after job.  Here is what happens:

Economic Impact
According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, Senator Bernie Sanders’s tax plan would reduce the economy’s size by 9.5 percent in the long run. The plan would lead to 4.3 percent lower wages, an 18.6 percent smaller capital stock, and 6.0 million fewer full-time equivalent jobs. The smaller economy results from higher marginal tax rates on capital and labor income.
Table 2.
Economic Impact of Senator Sanders’s Tax Reform Proposals
GDP  -9.5%
Capital Investment  -18.6%
Wage Rate  -4.3%
Full-time Equivalent Jobs (in thousands)  -5,973

Stop saying he hasn't offered anything for free.  He wants to extend the welfare state, thats "free food, utilities, etc."  Moloch have you ever lived in a socialist country??  Socialism will destroy all innovation in the United States.  It will destroy the US.

Whose ass did you pull those numbers out of?  How could you possibly know how taxes affect GDP, investment rate, etc?  6 million fewer jobs?!? How could you know any of that?

What "tax plan" are you even talking about?  Bernie has not released any "tax plan"... are you talking about his single-payer insurance plan that he released 2 months ago?  Do you even know what you are talking about?



No, I have never lived in a socialist country, but I have visited a few of them... I have also done a fair bit of research on socialism...

Have you visited a socialist country, or done even the slightest bit of research into socialist policies?
Or, are you just saying it's evil because that's what you were told in elementary school?

Just goes to show how little you actually know about bernie's proposals, he has released a tax plan (you can find details http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-senator-bernie-sanders-s-tax-plan).  You love the utopian idea, but it isn't even a remote possibility.  I have lived in Spain and Mexico, both are a travesty not some utopian awesomeness.  I run my own business and have several friends that left socialist countries because of their pressure on small businesses.  If we go down the road of socialism, our country will die a terrible, agonizing death.