Macphereson, and Shokney, and any other accomplice of Vern's if you are reading this please you guys have got to talk some sense into Vern. The jig is up. You two are probably the most likely besides Vern to go to jail over this but the others like Nerd Life can be sued like Lorie is because you guys were complicit in the Fraud. Vern has the money he made off of tricking you guys into being his accomplices. Don't let him drag you down with his stupidity. If you can reach Vern, you've got to bring him back to reason. He got greedy playing with all those coins he came to think of them as "his" and when Cryptsy wasn't working out making money he became like Golem and got obsessed with his "precious", the coins. He's not acting in his right mind. You guys have got to reason him out of this if you talk to him. DC girl, Nerd Life, you guys please get Vern to try to do right for everybody's sake, including Vern's. He could seriously do like decades in jail. You can't further enable him to do this to himself or you.