or are you serious about waiting untill 10 feb. before you believe they run the fuck off 
Yes, they don't have my money so i don't care. I'm sorry in case you guys will lose something, but i warned you and said to sell your preorders (for like 5000$/unit) and i even betted against them shipping on the 20th. I tried to do my part. In case they can prove to have the ASICs working and shipping they will have my money on the second batch.