Quote from: Erumara on May 20, 2016, 03:36:24 AM

Quote from: kano on May 20, 2016, 01:29:59 AM

genesis-mining mined with hardware that wouldn't find blocks
250BTC or more was lost by all the miners due to this
genesis-mining should have returned the BTC the pool paid them, for mining with hardware that wouldn't find blocks, and that should have been distributed to the miners

slush hid this ... I wonder why

Little odd to see you in here spreading FUD, thought a little better of you frankly. Slush *to my knowledge* was perfectly up front when the block-withholding was confirmed. Insinuating he somehow "owes" the miners due to a bad actor withholding blocks is a bit of a strange way of looking at it.
Utmost of respect to the work you do, but I have left the arena WIDE open for someone to provide the evidence behind these accusations and there is yet to be someone willing or able to provide it.

Quote from: d57heinz on May 20, 2016, 01:52:36 AM

Thanks Kano for always providing transparency.

Best Regards
d57heinz

Please send me the links to this "transparency", all I can see on Kano's site is the same as has always been there, the most basic of information you could possibly provide. At least I can count on you to reliably show up and spread nonsense regularly, brightens my day to see you back in here, with the same lack of any useful knowledge or information.

Quote from: fanatic26 on May 20, 2016, 01:51:19 AM

If someone takes the time to do the math on all that information they freely share, they might see where the problem lies. Like an almost exactly 10% less payout that expected over the life of the pool...

So I take it you're simply too busy to "do the math"? Or are you simply too "elite" to share your results with the peasants?
Are you really insinuating Slush is taking 10% off the top? This statement could hardly make less sense. You're talking about the theft of ~18BTC/day without a trace, that's a massive accusation to be coming from a Jr. Member who didn't bother including anything to back up such a damaging claim.

I have done the math, every one of my payouts has been on time and 100% accounted for, block for block. Still waiting for someone to show evidence to the contrary.

while the coins mined have been paid what is the lifetime luck for the pool?

what is the 25 block luck?
what is the 50 block luck?
what is the 100 block luck?
what is the 250 block luck?
what is the 500 block luck?
what is the 1000 block luck?

A simple chart like this one below

Block Statistics

Description   Time     MeanTx%    Diff%   Mean%   CDF     Luck%
Last 5 Blocks   1.9days   101.3%   145.85%   145.85%   0.8520   68.57%
Last 10 Blocks   2.6days   101.6%   100.55%   100.55%   0.5489   99.46%
Last 25 Blocks   6.1days   101.7%   96.32%   96.32%   0.4526   103.82%
Last 50 Blocks   13.2days   101.4%   95.15%   95.39%   0.3883   104.83%
Last 100 Blocks   27.9days   101.4%   109.43%   110.01%   0.8419   90.90%
Last 250 Blocks   8.4wks   101.3%   93.43%   93.00%   0.1331   107.52%
Last 500 Blocks   18.9wks   101.2%   92.26%   91.08%   0.0206   109.80%

All - Last 921 Blocks   87.0wks   100.9%   93.56%   94.19%   0.0369   106.17%

I say this because if the pool's luck lifetime is 90% who cares if the guy pays all the coins.
Way is the pool down 10% lifetime in luck?

In the interest of honesty open discussion will some one please show us slush luck stats.

in the format above?

I would say all pools over 100 blocks made should use this format above to clearly show luck.
Why

"Luck is the residue of design"

Branch Ricky the first general manager to hire a black manager leaguer Jackie Robinson.

Most people think it just bad luck when a pool has a slow mining streak. That assume all factors are perfectly equal.
The 256 algorithm is an equal factor that is it.

The servers.
The internet connections
The ddos protection
The pools coding
The Pool ability to detect bad miners doing a with holding attack.

Those are not equal and will be reflected in the pools luck stats.

More in the long term 100 block 250 block counts.

So does anyone want to make that list of block luck for slush?