re: trading and bcy value...... remember, most of us in this forum have been around since the beginning. we are committed to seeing this through and intend to stick it out until the end. because of these reasons, bcy trading and value isn't a big concern - we know we aren't going anywhere. do we wish the team was better at some things? yes. btw, i agree with many of the chinese exchange suggestions and wish the pr/marketing wing of EDS was A LOT better but i back shaban and EDS and appreciate the relationship they keep with the community. will it be a hit or a flop? who knows, but my full decks are some of my most prized possessions. they are a piece of bitcoin history, certain to be collector's items, and have been a blast to collect while watching a neat project unfold. good luck with the day trading, sincerely.