This IS a hardware thread and it IS about a hardware manufacturer, whether people use it responsibly - including you continuing what you consider OT - is on the poster not the thread. This thread has to exist as a non-moderated version of the main thread because discussion about the company was being deleted. That's how this works, and its rather strange to now claim that discussion about a company isn't relavent to the company's thread as it was with BFL, Bitmain, Bitfury, Canaan Creative, Bitmain etc etc.