Thanks thefiniteidea for the clarification between the two. it is useful to be able to differentiate with clear terminology of what is meant rather than my more vague notions.
Also your presentation of price, value, supply, demand and the relationship between them in relation to market analysis is educational. Appreciated

Thanks man, absolutely agree. You were spot on earlier, just been feeling a need for some time to go in-depth on this one

may even re-post as a topic to bring the whole community even further down this rabbit-hole...
Feel free to make a new thread out of that excellent post in the main economics section