I am bookmarking this post and making sure I come back and read it frequently. So I continue to try to resist my inherent attributes (resist my age and solidified methodologies) which might cause me to "miss the train" on what the youth are up to.
gustav, I wasn't limiting the use cases to the ETH block chain design. We already skewered Ethereum in the Ethereum Paradox thread.
Of course, I am assuming someone doing correct engineering, not Vitalik, Tual, et al wasting $millions on being technobullshit rock stars. When I was age 21, I coded WordUp in my bedroom for a year. When I launched a shipping product to the real market, my father invested $30,000. The company was profitable and helped 1000s of users with a real use case. I don't produce bullshit software.
https://www.google.com/search?q=neocept+wordupNow I promised myself to not waste time attacking others, so let's just leave it at that. I hold Vitalik to the same standard as I what I was able to do at his age. I worked hard and quietly and produced real s/w. Not roam around talking and promoting pie-in-the-sky delusions to n00bs. Even the one Comdex show and another San Fernando valley usergroup I did, I was very frank with the audience about the capabilities and limitations of the s/w. I guess I have to thank Ethereum for creating so much hype in the market that investors are ready to hand over so much money. So perhaps I should be praising them for promoting crypto. So I guess I will take that perspective and HODL my engineering nose about the level of delusion and lack of frankness about the technological (game theory, economics, scaling, etc) bullshit. Everyone has their freewill and their own choice. They should be free to reap what they sow.
The DAO is really unreal. But it makes perfect sense why n00bs can be lead to that delusion. And the audacity of Tual to say he thinks it will be good for crypto even if all the money is wasted. Well in some sense, I have to admit he is correct, because everyone should be free to learn and experiment and waste $150 million. More power to them Lol.
So any way, back to OpenBazaar that seems to be potentially a valid use case if engineered correctly.
gustav, I am more Hero account than you. If I had stayed with one account, I'd be Legendary already. I don't think we are arguing, are we?
Stop comparing yourself with Vitalik
Homer Simpson doesn't compare himself with Albert Einstein either.
In my opinion, everything I wrote above is valid (and that is not true of
some other posts I've made recently because I am learning very fast right now about this phenomenon I described below). I am entitled to share my opinion. I am not attacking subjective ambiguous attributes such as his ethics (although
I was perplexed as to whether they believe some of their unworkable fantasy designs). I am not berating anyone nor repeating over and over again trying to force it down your throat. You incite me to respond because of your attack with an implied assertion that I am only Homer Simpson and that I am nothing in comparison to Vitalik as Albert Einstein. The difference that you perceive has probably more to do with the difference that I describe below between an Xgen and a Zgen, in that I won't actually launch something until I am sure I have worked out the details and I am confident I have something that is workable. That doesn't necessarily mean my style of work is better.
I think
Vitalik said it best himself where he has basically admitted he was (at least initially) playing this like a cartoon or game with a bimodal perspective on reality. The Millennials seem to have been raised to think life is like a game. Unlike when we were kids and there were no computers, no gadgets and we needed to go climb trees and play with insects, the youth starting about with Vitalik's generation (and I should know because I have a son his age who is addicted to gaming), grew up with a different idea of what reality is. Yeah I am old enough to be Vitalik's father.
So it is important to understand they will think of the world from much more virtual reality terms than actual reality.
I think that is a valid insight to share.
Vitalik is math smart. He also knows how to inspire the dreams about a utopian virtual reality. But when it comes down to producing scalable technology and common sense business objectives, it seems that is not his forte so far. He may improve on his weaknesses as he matures. And I may improve on emulating what he does best, as I learn from studying him, his generation, and the phenomenon they initiated (which is the purpose of this thread).
I understand very well that the youth drive the future, and so I damn well better understand what they are up to. It is has been difficult for me to make the transition from my upbringing which is to have solid engineering and total design before embarking, to this new way of just having a nebulous idea and raising $millions without really knowing how the idea will end up being scaled and workable. I am realizing this has a lot to do with the generational difference in attitudes and upbringing. With games, you start playing and figure it out as you go along. For example, I noticed my son was much less interested in getting all the engineering of something worked out in his head like I do, and instead he was more interested in detailed discoveries while playing. He wanted the work to be part of the game, not something separated. You can see this in Vitalik's Ethereum blogs. He was working as part of the game. For him, the burnrate was okay because it was all part of the game of him being able to work with as many like-minded dreamers. Tual reiterated this recently when he stated that it is okay that even if The DAO fails, then it still would have been good for the crypto-currency ecosystem. For them, the ecosystem is the game.
It's all about the game.
I think that is a good result for all of us, for such insight, learning, and progress to be achieved.
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P.S. I originally underestimated either how ignorant or insouciant CC investors are. They either really believe in nonsense, and/or they really only care about trying to form as much pump excitement as possible regardless of any realities about actual user value created. It also appears to be a difference of perspective on what constitutes value with many here I guess thinking that enabling more investment vehicles of any form is an advance of value. I haven't yet determined the mix between naivete, insouciance, and different valid perspectives.
I am still trying to determine if I missed some key factor about value being created. And I am not trying to tell them to change. I am trying to understand this altcoin investing market and where it will lead.Lots of hate on this thread
I am not hating these guys. More power to them to have created so much investor interest in altcoins.
I am just sharing my analysis of the possible outcome. I am bit perturbed when people idolize this stuff so much. But I am learning to realize it is necessary. I am okay with every person having their own free will.