In case anyone is wondering, both the OP and Phoenix1969 are clearly purchased accounts, with Phoenix1969 being purchased less then a week prior to this thread opening. I would say there is a decent chance that the OP and Phoenix1969 are actually the same person, and based on that "Frank" and "Jigar" probably don't exist either.
It also looks like some of the deposits are being funneled to various exchanges that you do not need to share your identity with in order to deposit and withdraw, and as a result I suspect that some of the BTC is either recycled or otherwise belongs to the person behind this project.
There also appears to be a decent number of sockpuppets in this thread. I suspect that siameze, b0art, SeriousInvestor, RollingSeriously, EXmoneypotER and starswper are sockpuppets for this project. I suspect a few others as well, but the evidence is not quite as clear.
If someone were to ask me, then I would say that the chances of this project ending in a scam is somewhere in the 95% range
How can anyone trust you?
Look at your feedback from some of the most trusted people on this forum.BayAreaCoins- Reference I would not recommend for escrow. Nor would I trust.
I believe this user is using his DT to diddle the system.
John (John K.) I have reasons (and evidence) to believe that this user is engaging in self-collusion by the means of using alt accounts in order present a facade of trust in his business dealings. This is a breach of trust instilled by others, and a blatant disregard of the essence of the trust system this forum is operating on.
I've seen enough of the unfolding situation here to change this into a negative trust.
Vod : Continues to post an address and phone number of a woman who has the same first initial as me and lives in the same city, claiming it is my address. He is inviting harassment on what is probably a very innocent person.
jonald_fyookball : Thinks its perfectly ok to use secret alts and be your own escrow. I'm under the impression that he refunded all such escrow fees that were asked for, so I wouldn't go so far as to call him a scammer, but I seriously question this user's judgement.
You are also ignoring his feedback from people such as Blazed, TomatoCage and others, thanks for identifying another sockpuppet.
The fact of the matter is this is a terrible investment. The sockpuppets of the OP started trolling my business because I called them out on that.
Again, even in the slight event they are successful, you are getting a fraction of the return with them as you are with ANY other existing casino site that accepts public investment. Literally ANY other site would bring you a higher return. And the downside is incredibly smaller with other sites.
If anyone wants to put their money where their mouth is, I will wager 5 BTC that this either ends in a scam, or that investors do not see a 40% return within the first year of operations (which is comparable to investing on other dice sites). If you are a newbie account, or otherwise lack any signs that you can afford this bet, you need to put 10% down in a mutually agreed upon escrow until the terms of the bet are over.
The math on this is literally so simple its just mind boggling. You are essentially getting 15% of the HE here, whereas on other sites you get somewhere between 30-90% of the house edge. They already have an existing userbase, you need to build yours from scratch (meaning with them you for sure get volume. And no, getting actual volume players is not easy). With them, if you want to divest, you can instantly pull your entire invested amount out. With this? Not so much, you bought equity so you no longer "own" the cash you invested and cannot pull out its full value.
No! We all know quickseller is not to be trusted. Let's not debate that because that debate can last forever. What we can debate though is your math. By my math as a top 10 investor I'm supposed to get my equal part of 10% of all house profits, on top of that im to share in another 15% of house profits. And on top of that, 10% of house profits will be used to buy back LIR from the market, so if I have my sell orders placed correctly I stand to earn more from selling them back the coins in the first place. I am invested in your project too, and I invested about a week or so after you had bought it. I never had any issues or problems with MP but after seeing you on this thread trying to discredit the team and project with your friends I'm seriously thinking about taking my btc off MP for now until you relax and stop attacking other coins. The devs we're even asked if there was a bonus for people who took their btc from other gambling sites bankrolls and moved them here and the team answered so gracefully, responding to the question and saying something like " we dont want people taking money from other sites to fund our project..."
Now if you have an issue with a member on the forums please don't take that issue out on everyone else. Personally if I was you I would be trying to contact that person 1 on 1 and ensure him that MP is the place he should have his funds, and that your sorry that the site went down ect. Not arguing on another projects thread and trying to tear them down because you have an upset investor.
Back to the math, the team already stated that they plan on buying back as many of the coins as possible, if im willing to wait some time, which I am, I have no doubt that I'll get over double my investment from selling my LIR back to the team and reaping the rewards from the top 10 investor and the 25%
I have little doubt that I wont be able to get a clean double at least on my money , and most probably even more if I hold the LIR for a longer time.
For the majority of people, being a top 10 investor doesn't really mean much. I appreciate you invested on our site, if anyone wants to move their funds from MoneyPot to here they are welcome to. You should also note I have not once promoted MoneyPot in this thread, I have always used MoneyPot's competitors (Bet King, SatoshiDice etc) as the examples used, and I am posting from my personal account and not an official moneypot account, my personal beliefs are not necessarily the beliefs of my entire team. I would also like to note that there are several sockpuppets (this is not arguable, they are sockpuppets, one of them is named "exmoneypoter") trolling MoneyPot's thread now.
I have now seen not one, not two, but 3 gaming related ICO's in the past couple months.
Gamebet.gg - Trading much lower than ICO (we are now 3 months after the fact), has no traction and several investors still haven't received the perks they were promised. I warned people multiple times and I got called a troll, shilling for MoneyPot (even though MoneyPot isn't even in the e-sports betting industry, lol) and how I didn't know what I was talking about and they would all make money hand over fist.
Peerplays - Their ICO was going nowhere until they announced they were going to be part of the DAO (lol), now they start getting a ton of money thrown at them. The people building Peerplays are also working on several other projects. When you don't have a single product off the ground, you shouldn't be working on multiple different projects. I will wager a nice amount of money they fail.
Let It Ride - If you disagree with the argument I put forward, fine, suit yourself. Good luck with your investment. I don't think people understand how the gambling market works from a operator's perspective, and just how difficult it is to be profitable in the industry. Simply creating a site and giving it a bankroll does not = profit.
I'm done posting here, I wish you all the best in your investments.