Calm down folks, I was asking for a civilized debate and then people start namecalling eachother and insults...
We need to debate this stuff with clear minds and calm manner, otherwise it will be only a circus. So be more calm guys!
Everyone knows there isn't a debate. Blocksize will not increase just by talking about it. More nefarious means will be required to stop Bitcoin from getting blockstreamed, unfortunately that may mean reverting to their own sick tactics.