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Board Bitcoin Discussion
Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
by
Boelens
on 27/06/2016, 03:17:04 UTC
You're one of the ultra rare lucky ones. Talk to the thousands of people with money in Mt Gox, Bitinstant, ButterflyLabs, Gaw Miners, MyBitcoin, Pirates Ponzi, Bitcoinica, Bitscalper, Inputs.IO, Vicurex, Cryptorush, TradeHill, CryptoXChange, GBL, Just Dice, Bitcoin Rain, The Silk Road Seizure, Sheep Marketplace, BS&T, PicoStocks, Bitfloor, Basic Mining, Mintpal and many, many others.

Why is Just-Dice on that list of ponzis, scams, hacks, and thefts? Just-Dice took care of the over 60,000 BTC entrusted to it and returned it all when it shut down.
The owner behind Just-Dice has been involved in multiple multi-million dollar thefts from crowdfunded bankrolls. The owner of Just-Dice was never "officially" behind these sites, however he was involved to the point that he was telling people to gamble on these sites, was publicly investing in these sites' bankrolls (yet managed to not lose any money when the bankrolls were stolen), and was advertising for these sites.

I think it should be safe to say that any site that the owner of Just-Dice is involved in, including Just-Dice should be considered a scam

He may have advertised it but that doesnt mean anything on his end, it's just getting paid to advertise. You think that actors on tv care what the product is and if it actually works? No they're just getting paid for the advertisement not the actual product sales.
The owner of Just Dice advertising those scam sites is only a small piece of the puzzle. The owner of Just Dice was also actively telling people to play at the scam sites, which was him defacto telling people to invest their BTC at those scam sites' bankrolls that eventually got stolen. The scam sites also stole money from the bankrolls almost immediately after the owner of Just Dice was able to withdraw his BTC. If the scam sites were planning on scamming then they might as well have not honored the withdrawal request from the owner of Just Dice unless this person was somehow involved in the scam.

One explanation, that I personally believe as to how the owner of Just Dice was able to withdraw his BTC before those sites stole the BTC in their bankrolls was that the sites sent the owner of Just Dice an equal (or greater) amount of BTC as "collateral" so the owner of Just Dice could deposit his "own" BTC to those scam sites, and possibly earn a fee from doing so. There would be no risk to the owner of Just Dice, but he would still be allowed to publicly proclaim that he was investing in (and "trusting") these scam sites in order to give them additional legitimacy. Just Dice actually engaged in a similar setup with inputs.io and TradeFortress (someone who turned out to be a serial scammer who has stolen thousands of BTC on multiple occasions) openly.